gear and hitting the wall... lessons learned ......tren??

[underpsi]

so... fell in love with mrs tren was an idiot and while still summer, decided to sort of do a almost back to back tren cycle while blasting and cruising... BAD idea. i'm one of those lucky guys. found i can do up to 100ed and still no sides BUT did crash my body HARD!!
the signs were there.. started not getting those insane pumps, not feeling like i could EAT weights... loss of appetite too. actually started loosing strength!! how the hell is this possible?? i thought...
well... for the first time in 15 years or so of lifting found my limits. while doing flat bench dumbbell presses with only 100 each side, went to do first rep and it was like someone pulled the plug. no one home! arm pulled back like i had 1000 lbs on it and i hear/feel a big tear!! got black and blue ect. coincidence? maybe... idk
so, decided too much of anything is never good .. stopped cycle and went back to trt dose. injury is 90% better after only a few weeks..
here's the kick in the ass... now down to about 200cyp wk and this week had awesome work outs! major pumps, felt like the longer i worked out the more i wanted to destroy weights. not a scientist, but seems obvious that i hit some sort of wall.. body was just over taxed! anyone have any input??
gona wait a couple of months, see how i feel and run deca to help with damage.

 

[Hrnyfckr]

I had the same experience with my last tren cycle...when I stopped tren, I went down to a cruise dose of test for 3 months before coming off. Gains in strength and size were off the hook during this period. My body felt better and looked better... I could sleep and eat better, too.
I learned a lesson from that experiment. I love tren... Just started a new tren/test/mast cycle... But this time I'm def gonna "listen" to my body... When it's time to stop tren... It's time to stop. White nuckleing it through the last few weeks of a cycle is counter productive.

 

[DipKing]

It is still possible to over-train while on cycle. Just harder. Sometimes I feel more mentally exhausted than physically, and my training sucks donkey balls.

 

[Mad- scientist]

It sounds like to me you could have been experiencing to much toxicity in your body. A lot of bodybuilders call it going "toxic" and is usually refered to with to many orals or to strong of orals. But tren can do the same thing of not worse to your liver and kidneys. Whenever you are having problems eating and you are on a toxic substance the thought should go through your mind to cut the dosage down, drink more water, or take about 2400mgs of NAC a day. I would just cut the dosage down if you are feeling unable to eat for more than 2 days or 3 days. And than if cutting the dosage down doesn't work just stop. In all honesty if you have experiences of your body having to much toxicity from harsh steroids it is way better to stop before letting it get out of hand. It will get to the point to where you are actually sick like with a bad cold and your insides hurt and you can not eat. And that can last for a week after you stop the substances.

 

[underpsi]

thanks for all the input guys... read that tren is one that let's you know when it's time to come off lol.. maybe it was other factors? things to learn for my next run.. gona do deca/test late fall /winter and give tren another run during late spring.