Got my blood today, what are normal testosterone levels?

[Ghost124]

Got my blood today, what are normal testosterone levels? need evaluation

Hey guys so today I got my bloodwork. This is my pre cycle blood work prior to my first pin. I will need help reading it because it is a lot but I will post that up later. The one thing I noticed that is bugging me is my test levels:

Testosterone, Serum 351
Testosterone, Free 7.48
% Free Testosterone 2.13

This honestly came as a huge surprise. My sex drive has been GREAT the past 2 months. I am talking where I bang my girlfriend and 3 hours later jerking off....but bloodwork does not lie.
Sooo trt life?
Stats: 24 years old
5'9
195
22% bodyfat(I know I will get burned for this one)

Time off since last cycle: 7.5 months. Never did HcG. Doing HcG this cycle for the first time.

Current cycle: 12-14 weeks 500mg Test E per week and 75mg Var ED the last 6 weeks. Only 1 pin in so far into the cycle

opinions?

EDIT: Full blood attached below. Can you guys please give feedback

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[anzel]

The only way to know if its TRT for life is by getting a proper examination to figure out your reason for low T levels. Dont leave a stone unturned....even check for sleep apnea as that can cause Low T. Find out why first that way you can make an educated decision. If its important to you then begin the process now and save the blast for later.

 

[inhaus]

I am talking where I bang my girlfriend and 3 hours later jerking off....

also, you need to diet before doing cycles bruh... if you can't get down to at least 18% I don't see the point in doing AAS IMO. Not trying to be rude, I'm fat too but trying to change that before even considering AAS. this the physique you're going for?

 

[Megatron28]

You are supposed to get your blood work checked first thing in the morning after a good night's sleep. You went in after lunch. That is way too late.

Please go back and get checked again around 8AM. Get the Hormone Panel for Females so that we can see your LH and FSH. You may have borderline hypogonadism.

Were you drinking recently? I ask because your liver values were a little high. If so, this could have affected your TT as well.

I am guessing you need to clean up your diet. This affects TT.

Edit: Fuck! I just went back and saw that you already started your cycle. That was retarded! Couldn't wait a couple of days for blood work results? Never mind what I wrote above. WTF????

 

[halfwit]

Too late now, but along with what Tron said - it's how you FEEL that matters. Some of us handle testosterone with great efficiency and don't require a ton; then there's schlubs like me that aren't so efficient.

Inhaus, I'm all for poking fun at folks - but given the amount of respect asked for in your DNP thread, I thought you'd be a little more tactful.

 

[Ghost124]

Thanks for the input guys. For the record I am dieting, I WAS at 32.5% about 5 weeks ago. After my last cycle last year I completely went absent from the gym(person reasons) and was eating like complete shit. I just started dieting strict in April.

When do you all suggest I run blood again? I am on week one of Test 500

 

[inhaus]

Too late now, but along with what Tron said - it's how you FEEL that matters. Some of us handle testosterone with great efficiency and don't require a ton; then there's schlubs like me that aren't so efficient.

Inhaus, I'm all for poking fun at folks - but given the amount of respect asked for in your DNP thread, I thought you'd be a little more tactful.

fair enough, but maybe my tone was misinterpreted through the text, I have a very light humor at times that might not come off great I guess... the top ones are just funny and I'm all for humor, as for the bf% comment DNP and AAS are two very different things. Having a higher BF myself my main goal is to not have a higher BF which I see as a logical goal. I would never consider AAS at my current BF. and I'm not criticizing ghost for making that decision for himself I just would not have made that choice personally, to each his own.

plenty of people voiced their opinion in my thread and I responded thanks and duly noted as long as it wasn't repetitive and cluttering up the thread. Ghost is free to do as he wishes and I hope more knowledgeable people chime in to help him as best as possible, it's just in my research of DNP and AAS I found compelling reasons to not do AAS at higher BF% and no reason to not do DNP at higher BF% other than bro science and a few superstitious people.


That being said he has lost a ton of weight and IF this cycle is a cutting or very lean based cycle I could support that. A temporary amount of unhealthy activity in order to become more healthy in the long run I can get behind. Ghost just please keep on your diet man it always matters regardless of what you're taking. also 10% loss in 5 weeks HOLY FUARK!?!

 

[e92]

at 24 years old your test levels should be around 700, yours are 350. it doesn't fucking matter if he got it done in the afternoon or the morning because its not like his levels will be significantly higher in the morning.

okay so its 350 in the afternoon, and 400 in the morning... or even 450. those are shit levels for a 24 year old. those are levels of a 60 year old man.

you have hypogonadism bro. go find the reason for it and see if it can be solved naturally, otherwise you will be be on TRT for life, like me.

im 22 now, and i ran a bunch gear from age 18. i blasted and cruised for 2 and a half years, and recently i decided to come off. i did everything properly to come off, clomid, nolva, HCG all that bullshit. then 3 months after i finished taking those, i got bloods and my test was 504. thats probably what my 60 year old father has.

a test level of 504 is pretty shit, considering my levels were around 750 before i started gear. and believe me, that 150ng/dl difference is like day and night. good luck to you

 

[Megatron28]

at 24 years old your test levels should be around 700, yours are 350. it doesn't fucking matter if he got it done in the afternoon or the morning because its not like his levels will be significantly higher in the morning.

okay so its 350 in the afternoon, and 400 in the morning... or even 450. those are shit levels for a 24 year old. those are levels of a 60 year old man.

you have hypogonadism bro. go find the reason for it and see if it can be solved naturally, otherwise you will be be on TRT for life, like me.

im 22 now, and i ran a bunch gear from age 18. i blasted and cruised for 2 and a half years, and recently i decided to come off. i did everything properly to come off, clomid, nolva, HCG all that bullshit. then 3 months after i finished taking those, i got bloods and my test was 504. thats probably what my 60 year old father has.

a test level of 504 is pretty shit, considering my levels were around 750 before i started gear. and believe me, that 150ng/dl difference is like day and night. good luck to you

You have misstated a lot of facts in here. You should be more careful as not to scare people with misinformation.

 

[e92]

You have misstated a lot of facts in here. You should be more careful as not to scare people with misinformation.

what misinformation did i give him? im giving him facts:

-350 is a shit level for a 24 year old
-he does have hypogonadism
-he might have to be on TRT for life

you dont agree?

 

[halfwit]

what misinformation did i give him? im giving him facts:

-350 is a shit level for a 24 year old
-he does have hypogonadism
-he might have to be on TRT for life

you dont agree?

Natural testosterone can swing by up to 60% throughout the day, and other factors such as diet and sleep can have a profound effect on them. If he feels great, then he may not be hypogonadal.

Its not a one-size-fits-all metric; some guys just are able to function at lower test levels perfectly fine. Is his NUMBER lower than others? Sure, but the context is what matters and makes the difference.

Thanks for clarifying Inhaus, much respect.

 

[Ghost124]

at 24 years old your test levels should be around 700, yours are 350. it doesn't fucking matter if he got it done in the afternoon or the morning because its not like his levels will be significantly higher in the morning.

okay so its 350 in the afternoon, and 400 in the morning... or even 450. those are shit levels for a 24 year old. those are levels of a 60 year old man.

you have hypogonadism bro. go find the reason for it and see if it can be solved naturally, otherwise you will be be on TRT for life, like me.

im 22 now, and i ran a bunch gear from age 18. i blasted and cruised for 2 and a half years, and recently i decided to come off. i did everything properly to come off, clomid, nolva, HCG all that bullshit. then 3 months after i finished taking those, i got bloods and my test was 504. thats probably what my 60 year old father has.

a test level of 504 is pretty shit, considering my levels were around 750 before i started gear. and believe me, that 150ng/dl difference is like day and night. good luck to you

I will look into this.
For the record, not all 24 year olds have 700ish test levels. I remember I got a full panel done at 20 and was 590ish and that was when I never touched gear

 

[Megatron28]

at 24 years old your test levels should be around 700, yours are 350. it doesn't fucking matter if he got it done in the afternoon or the morning because its not like his levels will be significantly higher in the morning.

okay so its 350 in the afternoon, and 400 in the morning... or even 450. those are shit levels for a 24 year old. those are levels of a 60 year old man.

you have hypogonadism bro. go find the reason for it and see if it can be solved naturally, otherwise you will be be on TRT for life, like me.

im 22 now, and i ran a bunch gear from age 18. i blasted and cruised for 2 and a half years, and recently i decided to come off. i did everything properly to come off, clomid, nolva, HCG all that bullshit. then 3 months after i finished taking those, i got bloods and my test was 504. thats probably what my 60 year old father has.

a test level of 504 is pretty shit, considering my levels were around 750 before i started gear. and believe me, that 150ng/dl difference is like day and night. good luck to you

OK. Let's detail out the misinformation.

- As Halfwit pointed out, TT can swing significantly thoughout the day. It can be much more than a 100 point swing.

- 350ng/dl is generally not considered Hypogonadism. It is at the upper end of the range for Borderline Hypogonadism (300-350ng/dl).

- 700ng/dl is higher than average for a 24 year old male. Not the average.

-504ng/dl is actually pretty close to average for a 22 year old male. It isn't a shitty TT level. Most guys feel pretty good at 504ng/dl.

-You didn't take into account that he is running a caloric deficit which commonly reduces testosterone levels.

 

[Matt0071]

fair enough, but maybe my tone was misinterpreted through the text, I have a very light humor at times that might not come off great I guess... the top ones are just funny and I'm all for humor, as for the bf% comment DNP and AAS are two very different things. Having a higher BF myself my main goal is to not have a higher BF which I see as a logical goal. I would never consider AAS at my current BF. and I'm not criticizing ghost for making that decision for himself I just would not have made that choice personally, to each his own.

plenty of people voiced their opinion in my thread and I responded thanks and duly noted as long as it wasn't repetitive and cluttering up the thread. Ghost is free to do as he wishes and I hope more knowledgeable people chime in to help him as best as possible, it's just in my research of DNP and AAS I found compelling reasons to not do AAS at higher BF% and no reason to not do DNP at higher BF% other than bro science and a few superstitious people.


That being said he has lost a ton of weight and IF this cycle is a cutting or very lean based cycle I could support that. A temporary amount of unhealthy activity in order to become more healthy in the long run I can get behind. Ghost just please keep on your diet man it always matters regardless of what you're taking. also 10% loss in 5 weeks HOLY FUARK!?!

Lmao dnp is worse then a 500mg/week test cycle in my.eyes
Plain.stupid at your current bf to use dnp when a good diet could of worked.wonders for.u

 

[Matt0071]

Since ghost is.sitting at 22 percent bf and.your all.over.him,.what bf.are u currently.sitting at inhaus

 

[Ghost124]

side note, can Ralox mess with liver function? I can't figure out why my liver is acting up. I did drink the night before getting that panel done, but it was only 4 shots. I have been taking Ralox for 6 weeks straight now however

 

[SJC]

also, you need to diet before doing cycles bruh... if you can't get down to at least 18% I don't see the point in doing AAS IMO. Not trying to be rude, I'm fat too but trying to change that before even considering AAS. this the physique you're going for?

Shut up!! Quit parroting what you hear on these forums.

 

[halfwit]

side note, can Ralox mess with liver function? I can't figure out why my liver is acting up. I did drink the night before getting that panel done, but it was only 4 shots. I have been taking Ralox for 6 weeks straight now however

Probably the booze. It also depends on how hydrated you were at the time of the draw.

 

[e92]

- 700ng/dl is higher than average for a 24 year old male. Not the average.

-504ng/dl is actually pretty close to average for a 22 year old male. It isn't a shitty TT level. Most guys feel pretty good at 504ng/dl.

first, you have no idea what you're talking about. the average male in their early 20s should have levels around 650-700

second, 504 is a shit level for a 22 year old. few years ago i tried convincing my 60 year old father to look into TRT, he got blookwork done and his TT was 450. now why would i want levels of a 60 year old man, when i can put 200mgs of test in my ass and fuck my girlfriend 3 times a day?

i chose to put myself on TRT because i do believe 504 is low for a 22 year old, and its only downhill from there. and also i just hate being "pretty close to average" or average. average is shit. a real man strives to be above average in every aspect of his life no matter what it takes him to get there. not saying every guy should be shooting test in their ass cheeks but you get what i mean

 

[halfwit]

Still focusing on numbers I see. You do realize that the charts Tron posted are based on real statistical data, right?

FYI: There are guys out there that can fuck their girl 3x a day at half those values. Hell, I could have sex all day long at 120ng/dL, I just didn't want to.

Tron absolutely knows what he's talking about btw.