Got my blood today, what are normal testosterone levels?

Still focusing on numbers I see. You do realize that the charts Tron posted are based on real statistical data, right?

FYI: There are guys out there that can fuck their girl 3x a day at half those values. Hell, I could have sex all day long at 120ng/dL, I just didn't want to.

Tron absolutely knows what he's talking about btw.
those graphs are bullshit. theres 100 different graphs out there with different values
 
like this one

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and this one

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first, you have no idea what you're talking about. the average male in their early 20s should have levels around 650-700

second, 504 is a shit level for a 22 year old. few years ago i tried convincing my 60 year old father to look into TRT, he got blookwork done and his TT was 450. now why would i want levels of a 60 year old man, when i can put 200mgs of test in my ass and fuck my girlfriend 3 times a day?

i chose to put myself on TRT because i do believe 504 is low for a 22 year old, and its only downhill from there. and also i just hate being "pretty close to average" or average. average is shit. a real man strives to be above average in every aspect of his life no matter what it takes him to get there. not saying every guy should be shooting test in their ass cheeks but you get what i mean

There is a big difference between what you think a male in his early 20's should have for TT and what the averages really are for the population.

A 22 year old male's Total Testosterone has not peaked. It peaks around 40 years old. Free T is a different story of course.

If your father feels good at 450 and has no co-morbidities, why put him on a treatment for no reason? There is potential risk and cost involved with TRT.
 
Except his came from an actual accredited study and appears in medical textbooks. It's not just some random study or a sales pitch (like the second one you linked) - I don't have the source anymore, but:

FIGURE 253-8* Relationship between plasma testosterone (A) and free testosterone (B) levels and age in normal males. *(From Baker HWG, Berger HG, DeKretser DM, et al: Changes in the pituitary-testicular system with age. Clin Endocrinol 1996; 5:349-372.)

That's the reference from the text where I had seen it before. Please feel free to dispute more numbers that you're using to justify going back on AAS.
 
Hell, I could have sex all day long at 120ng/dL, I just didn't want to.

At 153, I could masturbate 5 times a day still...but the drive to go through all the effort sex entails (sex involves two people after all) just was not there.
 
At 153, I could masturbate 5 times a day still...but the drive to go through all the effort sex entails (sex involves two people after all) just was not there.

I honestly only wanted sex because it was attention, and was something I was *supposed* to want. Hell, if I watch a movie older than 6 years old, it's COMPLETELY different! It's like, "whoa! Titties /etc!"
 
I was below 200. When I had to choose between sleep and sex I chose sleep almost every time. That was even with my wife prancing around naked trying to do anything she could to get me to pay attention to her.
 
I honestly only wanted sex because it was attention, and was something I was *supposed* to want. Hell, if I watch a movie older than 6 years old, it's COMPLETELY different! It's like, "whoa! Titties /etc!"

You were able to stay awake to watch an entire movie? :-)
 
Ok cool prove it post a pic well compare. .... oh that's right you won't lol

instead of posting and guessing why not just go get a body fat test?

i get mine tested every week. and unlike you, I am actually dropping fat. You are content being a fat fuck all year round
 
instead of posting and guessing why not just go get a body fat test?

i get mine tested every week. and unlike you, I am actually dropping fat. You are content being a fat fuck all year round

I know my bf I just let guys like you talk smack because your jealous and it's funny. Whatever if I'm 40% should be easy win for you right? Your 22% I'm 40% posted it up
 
Fact I look better that's a fact or you would shut me up and embarrass me but you won't because you can't not only are you fat but you also have gyno double wammy against you. Only guys that talk shit also look like shit fact!
 
Fact I look better that's a fact or you would shut me up and embarrass me but you won't because you can't not only are you fat but you also have gyno double wammy against you. Only guys that talk shit also look like shit fact!

Do you actually believe the stuff that you type?? you look better? you're fat dude. I am not going to post pics of "which fatass is less fat" for all of ology to laugh at. That's fucken embarrassing. You look like a blob of meat. You can't tell where your fat or muscle start or begin. I actually plan on having definition by July and close to 10% by August. You? Probably will be still 40% and claiming I am jealous LMAO FOH dude

The fact that you post your fat pictures and think you look good says it all. I am not posting because at 22% I have too much self esteem to post fat pics.
 
at 24 years old your test levels should be around 700, yours are 350. it doesn't fucking matter if he got it done in the afternoon or the morning because its not like his levels will be significantly higher in the morning.

okay so its 350 in the afternoon, and 400 in the morning... or even 450. those are shit levels for a 24 year old. those are levels of a 60 year old man.

you have hypogonadism bro. go find the reason for it and see if it can be solved naturally, otherwise you will be be on TRT for life, like me.

im 22 now, and i ran a bunch gear from age 18. i blasted and cruised for 2 and a half years, and recently i decided to come off. i did everything properly to come off, clomid, nolva, HCG all that bullshit. then 3 months after i finished taking those, i got bloods and my test was 504. thats probably what my 60 year old father has.

a test level of 504 is pretty shit, considering my levels were around 750 before i started gear. and believe me, that 150ng/dl difference is like day and night. good luck to you

3 months later isn't really long enough to go out and get a blood work done and say oh I'm 504 that's it 504 done deal give me trt forever. You need to get tested once a month for a few more montjs. You might have a low count on a certain day for numberous reasons. Including you jerking off too much. So you ran gear for 2 and a half years plus the pct what makes you think after a huge 2 and a half year cycle 3 months is gunna make you snap right back to maximum potential. You need to wait a lot longer than 3 months to see where your natural test is gunna settle into. Maybe had you ran a 2 month cycle than 3 would be a full recovery but I still even dout that dude. I would just chill out for a year if you want a more realistic look at that test score. Plus you kinda need to get a few tests to see what's really going on. You sound like your still in the depression phase of your recovery at this point with that I just give up attitude. I wouldn't be suprised if you started drinking alcohol smoking cigarettes and other garbage drugs like that to seal the deal.
 
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I actually plan on having definition by July and close to 10% by August.


just trying to pull something positive out of here real quick... keep it up, maybe we should have a race! lol I'm looking to continue losing and shooting for september as my goal. I don't really have a BF% as a goal more so a good foundation of muscle and I'd like to be able to see it pretty good too :)
 
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