Guidance for First Cycle!

[g4u2nv89]

Hi peeps.

I am new to the forums but I have done a lot of reading in my spare time prior to posting. Hopefully I will become as knowledgeable as some of you guys and be able to share it soon!

Anyway, I am 24 years old, 5ft 10" tall (177cm), 77kg (170lb), 13-15% max bf, and have been lifting on and off for a total of 5 years with the last 2 years being very dedicated. In the last 2 years alone, I have put on 30lbs. I workout with a 5-day split. I wont lie - my diet is not spot on but it will be another issue I need to get sorted asap but lets stick to the cycle for now (as a guide 300g P, 400g C, 120g F).

I am planning on my first cycle as follows:

week 1 -12 = 500mg Test E
week 1-4 = 50mg Dbol
Arimidex 0.5mg EOD throughout cycle (keep sides/gyno/water retention away??)

PCT: (2 weeks post last pin)
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
D-aspartic acid maybe

All of the above are genshi products.

I have HCG on hand too - 1 amp of 5000ui. I am unsure of when to use this. Either weeks 2-12 or weeks 6-12 at 500ui per week (2 x 250ui). If so, when do I pin the HCG, a day before or after the Test? Also, can it be pinned IM instead of SC? Do you think this is better than doing a 10 day course starting week 13?

Lastly, what sort of gains would I expect, strength-wise and mass-wise?

Many thanks!

 

[g4u2nv89]

anyone?

 

[Vino 1]

Cycle looks good. U won't need the hcg. Keep it simple. Some would say drop the Dbol. U can drop it or not. I'd say it should be ok. You dont really need hcg. u can drop that. ive never used it And i recover fine. some giys use it some Dont.Gains depend on diet not gear. But u should see some very nice gains.

 

[g4u2nv89]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm fully aware gains will be diet based so I am looking into that aspect also!

As for the HCG, what it be reasonable if I took 500ui every day after the last test injection? Surely it will have some positive impact on shocking the gonads to eventually produce natural test?

I have everything ready except the pins. Any advice on this? What size to draw and what size to pin? Thinking of going to the drug crisis needle exchange centre to get some!

Cheers

 

[Vino 1]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm fully aware gains will be diet based so I am looking into that aspect also!

As for the HCG, what it be reasonable if I took 500ui every day after the last test injection? Surely it will have some positive impact on shocking the gonads to eventually produce natural test?

I have everything ready except the pins. Any advice on this? What size to draw and what size to pin? Thinking of going to the drug crisis needle exchange centre to get some!

Cheers

As I said, I've never used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so I won't advise u on it. Pins are easy just use RUI, board sponsor. 18g to draw, 25g 1.5" to pin. But do some more reading and research before u start pinning please. U need to be aware of EVERYTHING that can happen while on AAS

 

[g4u2nv89]

As I said, I've never used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so I won't advise u on it. Pins are easy just use RUI, board sponsor. 18g to draw, 25g 1.5" to pin. But do some more reading and research before u start pinning please. U need to be aware of EVERYTHING that can happen while on AAS

I know about sterile technique and side effects etc as I work in the medical field but thought I'd see what others do for their cycles.

 

[g4u2nv89]

so this cycle is good to go?!

 

[Vino 1]

so this cycle is good to go?!

Yep your g2g. Have fun and keep us posted how u doin.

 

[drizzo69]

I never use post cycle therapy (pct) I don't need it, although I keep it on hand. That is my favorite cycle by far ive actually dropped the dbol and run the 500 test with two inj a week while maintaining a high calorie diet. Good luck and post how everything is going.

 

[Vino 1]

I never use post cycle therapy (pct) I don't need it, although I keep it on hand. That is my favorite cycle by far ive actually dropped the dbol and run the 500 test with two inj a week while maintaining a high calorie diet. Good luck and post how everything is going.

I'm just curious and not flaming you, but how do u know u don't need post cycle therapy (pct)? Your natural test just kicks back on immediately on its own? Do u get bloods to verify that u have recovered properly? I would never suggest not using a post cycle therapy (pct). But as I said I'm just curious not flaming u

 

[g4u2nv89]

Cheers Vino. And yup, I'll keep yall posted

 

[damianschaab]

There's always been 2 schools of thought on 1st cycles:

1. Take it slow and easy; you'll basically grow on ANYTHING so there's no sense in overdoing things.

2. You only get one 1st time (with virgin receptors), so go balls out and maintain thereafter.

 

[michaelawlker]

Well Vino 1, I do agree with you that some people are using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and some are not but that does not mean every people do not need it because as you said, it is depend on the diet. This steroid also have so many benefits.

 

[g4u2nv89]

Well for the first 6 weeks I will see how I get on and maybe use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the last 6 weeks and stopping before a few days prior to post cycle therapy (pct). Just going to try and keep things simple though.