Hey guys, i've never cycled before but i developed a small lump behind my left nipple in september 2010 it was small so i thought just takin some nolva at 40/40/30/20 would get rid of it so i ordered some from ar-r and took it for a month. If anything the lump got bigger. So i got off after a month this was maybe late feb early march, and now i might be getting a lump behind my right nipple. Anybody have any suggestions on what i can do to prevent/get rid of it? Adex and nolva or something? any help would be appreciated. thanks guys.
Gyno help!!
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ronnie2010
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You have never cycled anything?? Any prohormones?? What are you stats...age,weight, height...etc...etc
nope. never done any ph or aas. I'm 20, 230 lbs 6'2 10%bf . been lifting for 2 years. I'm a late bloomer, didn't grow tall till i was 17 and 18 so i assume its from puberty, maybe high estrogen? need to know what i can take to get rid of the lump/prevent another one. stane? adex? with nolva? I have no idea i've read alot and researched but i need a clear answer as to what compounds to take and what dosage how long etc
ronnie2010
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I would get bloodwork right away so you know what your working with...
Some guys claim that letro will work to "zap" any lumps away but some say it doesn't work for them. But at this point I wouldn't recommend it yet. Get your bloodwork done asap and report back. How bad is the lump? or lumps?
Some guys claim that letro will work to "zap" any lumps away but some say it doesn't work for them. But at this point I wouldn't recommend it yet. Get your bloodwork done asap and report back. How bad is the lump? or lumps?
ronnie2010
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I am hoping someone else will chime in here then....
Warren916
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Id use Letrozole if your really worried about it...
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro
Use this protocol until the gyno is gone.
Then make sure to taper off.
Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg
Day 5: .25mg
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro
Use this protocol until the gyno is gone.
Then make sure to taper off.
Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg
Day 5: .25mg
destined4gr8ness
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if you have never cycled before than why are you jumping into using serms and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for gyno reduction right away?
why not go to your physician? they dont know much about it, but could get you surgery to remove it which is the only way to completely remove it.
i do agree with warren on letro, however if you really do have puberty induced gyno it will often correct itself over time. it only makes you more susceptible to gyno during cycle.
see your physician or wait it out if its from puberty. if you did cycle and just dont want to say it, run letro like warren said, but id recommend adding in nolva at the end of the letro blast to ease the taper off and avoid an estro rebound.
why not go to your physician? they dont know much about it, but could get you surgery to remove it which is the only way to completely remove it.
i do agree with warren on letro, however if you really do have puberty induced gyno it will often correct itself over time. it only makes you more susceptible to gyno during cycle.
see your physician or wait it out if its from puberty. if you did cycle and just dont want to say it, run letro like warren said, but id recommend adding in nolva at the end of the letro blast to ease the taper off and avoid an estro rebound.
It started in september so it wasn't right away. It wasn't bad but i thought nolva would get rid of it and the liquid shit from arr didn't do anything except make it worse. and that was in feb, now its almost may and it looks like its getting worse and maybe developin one in my right. As i stated a doctor is way too expensive as is surgery so i was lookin for a different route to prevent it or shrink it. And no i haven't done any cycles, ph or aas
i don't understand? wouldn't i wanna run nolva to during the letro or after to prevent an estrogen rebound?
destined4gr8ness
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at the end..not during.
letro is strong stuff so you dont want to add in nolva there until at the end of your blast run. so say on your last day of letro at .25mg add in nolva and then taper off the nolva in a week or two and you should not have any problem with an estro rebound.
Warren916
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Dude, if your not going to take our advice, then dont ask...
LETRO fool, use it, people are scared of Letro or something, they give it told old grandmas with breast cancer up to 5mg/ed, you should be able to handle it.
Im taking 2.5mg/ed on just a test cycle, and my estro is in a low but good range.
LETRO fool, use it, people are scared of Letro or something, they give it told old grandmas with breast cancer up to 5mg/ed, you should be able to handle it.
Im taking 2.5mg/ed on just a test cycle, and my estro is in a low but good range.
kjkinger77
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Yo, first off, you say you are a late bloomer with puberty (growing, whatever, aging later than normal, etc...) And you say you have never cycled before nor took ph's. My question to you is have you ever developed this condition during puberty?? If you are a late bloomer this is a common condition during puberty and you should let the shit just happen! your body will balance out with homeostasis. I don't know what drew you to this sight first off asking about anti estrogens and shit and post cycle therapy (pct) type things if you never have done aas or ph's. So either you have cycled something and aren't admitting to it or you are going thru a late phase of puberty. I had it when i was younger during puberty phase of my life and it just went away. When i cycled some ph's it came back just like when i was younger so i knew my hormones were fucked up, and the purpose of a post cycle therapy (pct) is to balance your hormones by decreasing the estrogen that has risen due to the rise of test in your body from the ph's or aas. Basically your estrogen tries to balance out when your natural test is high but the half life of ph's are short and they dont last worth a fuck in your body, so once you stop, your test drops quickly while your estrogen is still high from trying to balance out with the test that you just raised from taking ph's. Hence you now have high estrogen, BUT if you have never done cycles of anything then it isnt that and just take this as advice for future cycle. Imbalance in hormones causes gyno, testicular atrophy, lowered/loss libido, etc.. But dont fuck with the post cycle therapy (pct) supplements and shit if you have never cycled anything because your body might be going thru a natural phase and you need to just ride the shit out, do not prolong by taking shit you dont need. 20 yrs old is still young dude so you're still going thru changes. Unless it is a medical condition, therefore get checked, otherwise, it should go away.
kjkinger77 i agree with your post, i remember having a lump when i was young in like middle school, we called it rock tit, then it came back september 2010 and i left it for awhile, then i got set on the idea that i was gonna cycle so came to this site and others to post and realized that i'm too young. Then i read about gyno and thought shit i think i have that and read that nolva could possibly reduce it or make it go away so i ordered some from arr thinkin its no big deal and did it for a month and the lump got bigger. now 3 months later it seems worse and might be developing one in the right nipple so i'm lookin for ways to reduce it block it etc
As i said i developed it in september, thought nothing of it, then mid october i started doing h- drol, did it for 3 days 2 pills a day then pussed out. and stopped takin it. didn't do a post cycle therapy (pct) or anything. Nothing happened to the lump, then in feb i did the nolva for a month and it looks worse now. so thinkin letro will solve it
kjkinger77
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Well if you just literally had the gyno come back out of no where, it could be a hormonal imbalance in your body, for what ever reason... Have you seen a doctor for this yet? Also i think that these post cycle therapy (pct)'s truly ARE NOT helping with this, I mean its called "post cycle therapy" for a reason. And in your case there is no cycle so if you haven't seen a medical professional, i wouldn't be taken any one's advice on here for takin post cycle therapy (pct)'s and all that bull shit. post cycle therapy (pct)'s are anti estrogens and basically keep your testosterone from just crashing after a cycle and when you cycle you ween off and start a post cycle therapy (pct) while you are weening off your cycle. In that case your hormones are somewhat still going to change, but at a slower rate because you weened off and got on an anti estrogen. BUT WHAT I AM IMPLYING WITH ALL OF THIS IS!!......
You are taking anti estrogens and trying to keep your test up! If you have a natural hormone imbalance like, testosterone deficiency, these fucking post cycle therapy (pct)'s don't correct that,it will only temporarily help! So honestly MY ADVICE get checked, and stop fucking with these pills! Not to sound like such a prick, but i have experienced this bullshit, and googled, and looked on forums, etc... did everything to see why i had this problem, but it was because I cycled, you didn't! There has to be some underlying medical condition you might not be looking in to. If you remember to check for these symptoms, which you cant help but notice; testicular atrophy (tightened, shrunken testes), loss libido, your boners not as long lasting and as hard (sounds queer but it is what it is!), symptoms of ED (erectile dysfunction). These are not always from gear and ph's dude and hormonal imbalances will cause these same symptoms. But gear and ph's will cause these symptoms too because, they just cause a chemical imbalance in hormones, yours might just be a natural imbalance.
You are taking anti estrogens and trying to keep your test up! If you have a natural hormone imbalance like, testosterone deficiency, these fucking post cycle therapy (pct)'s don't correct that,it will only temporarily help! So honestly MY ADVICE get checked, and stop fucking with these pills! Not to sound like such a prick, but i have experienced this bullshit, and googled, and looked on forums, etc... did everything to see why i had this problem, but it was because I cycled, you didn't! There has to be some underlying medical condition you might not be looking in to. If you remember to check for these symptoms, which you cant help but notice; testicular atrophy (tightened, shrunken testes), loss libido, your boners not as long lasting and as hard (sounds queer but it is what it is!), symptoms of ED (erectile dysfunction). These are not always from gear and ph's dude and hormonal imbalances will cause these same symptoms. But gear and ph's will cause these symptoms too because, they just cause a chemical imbalance in hormones, yours might just be a natural imbalance.
lite wt rookie
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You say you don't have the money to go to the doctor? Yet u keep buying shit to treat something your not sure of? I'm guessing the money u spent already would be close to one doc apt. Jmo
letro is like 40 dollars.. .compared to a doctor in america especially a specialist... use your head
and i have used one bottle of nolva that was 30 bucks.... so no nothing close to a doc appt.... common sense.. do you have some?
