Gyno... Should I stop my cycle?

[George68539]

Hi, I'm 20 yo. And just started my first cycle on 500mg test e a week, I'm near the end of week 3, I started on 10mg of nolvadex a day but put it up to 40mg when I found two lumps, one under each nipple at the end of week 2. The lumps seem to be getting bigger on nolvadex 40 mg ED.

I will have arimidex and letro in about two weeks but for the time being just nolvadex.
What I want to know is should I stop my cycle for now until I get letro or should I continue, as o do not want to stop as I have just started seeing considerable gains on strength and size.

Thanks George.

 

[tbonexl]

You should stop your cycle now and wait a few years. Study up on the beginner cycle stickys. Your heading down a bad path. If your getting sides on week 3, your not doing anything right at all...

 

[George68539]

Ok thanks.

Also do you know why I have got Gino so early on? Could I just be more susceptible or because I only used 10mg nolvadex a day on cycle?
Because I would want to run another cycle in future so want to know if Gino will be unavoidable for me or if I could have used arimidex on cycle and that would have prenred it?

 

[George68539]

Ok thanks.

I'm also wandering why this could be? Am I just susceptible to gyno or could it be that I didn't run an AI (arimidex) throughout my cycle?
I want to do another cycle in about a year or so but need to know if gyno will be somewhat unavoidable for me, or if letro or arimidex with nolvadex on cycle could prevent it?

Thanks,
George.

 

[mdwilson2011]

Wow dude. Take the advice of tbonexl. If you didn't do enough research to understand you should always run an AI on cycle, then you simply are not even close to ready for a cycle. AI usage is pretty basic stuff that even a newbie should know after 2 hours of research...

 

[tbonexl]

Did you read the beginner cycle stickys and the ology faq's thread?

 

[George68539]

Yes I have read them and almost every thread on every website lol. There's a lot of information that contradicts other information so I thought asking people who've experienced the same type of things or know for expirience would be more beneficial. And from reading about I haven't found an accurate answer because something else will say the opposite.

 

[scorob777]

Well you know everybody is different, and 3 weeks is not a long time, and you don't know how this is going to play out over a longer time period - but off the cuff I'd say this is because you didn't take an AI from day 1.

 

[George68539]

Sorry, what I meant was, in future possibly a year or two, using an AI. would it be wise to start a cycle considering I am prone to gyno and already have a lump under each nipple?
And I understand I should have done more research but I read and was told by other people with experience that 10-20 mg of nolvadex ED on cycle would be enough to prevent gyno.

 

[scorob777]

Sorry, what I meant was, in future possibly a year or two, using an AI. would it be wise to start a cycle considering I am prone to gyno and already have a lump under each nipple?
And I understand I should have done more research but I read and was told by other people with experience that 10-20 mg of nolvadex ED on cycle would be enough to prevent gyno.

You won't find many here who recommend nolvadex on cycle - it blunts your body's response to estrogen in breast tissue, it doesn't prevent high estrogen from occurring - so may be effective against gyno, but leaves you open to all the other bad sides of high E2.

But, having said that taking nolva would probably have prevented gyno in 95% of people, you must be the exception.

Best course if you want to try this again in 5 years would be to take a reasonable dose of AI from day 1, and then calibrate up or down by blood testing. In the mean time you can try to get rid of any lumps with ralox after you PCT.

 

[Motherboard]

You won't find many here who recommend nolvadex on cycle - it blunts your body's response to estrogen in breast tissue, it doesn't prevent high estrogen from occurring - so may be effective against gyno, but leaves you open to all the other bad sides of high E2.

But, having said that taking nolva would probably have prevented gyno in 95% of people, you must be the exception.

Best course if you want to try this again in 5 years would be to take a reasonable dose of AI from day 1, and then calibrate up or down by blood testing. In the mean time you can try to get rid of any lumps with ralox after you PCT.

Some estrogen is needed in order to build muscle. Taking an AI unnecessarily is pretty foolish. If the only estro side you are getting is gyno, why wouldn't you just take a SERM?

 

[scorob777]

Some E2 is necessary yes, in this case taking 500 mg/wk test is 5x your normal production at 20 years old. It is guaranteed to drive your E2 higher, and likely higher than you really want it to be. Best thing is to do blood testing to figure out your dosage and keep E2 where you want it.

 

[tbonexl]

Should've been taking an ai with nolva. I doubt op read any of the stickys. This has been mentioned in every thread that pops up about gyno...

 

[oldmusclemike]

This ^^^^^

Sorry I have tuned in here a bit late. Damn OP you did no research before you did a cycle and your problems are Simple Simon.


Stop your cycle NOw and start PCT.
You are too young and at your young boyish age you are more susceptible to Gyno then when you have completed your growth.
You did not use an AI such as Adex.
You used Nolva and that was NOT what you needed on cycle.

These mistakes are common with young people diving in to a cycle when too young and not doing any research prior. I don't get it. Before you stuck your ass with steroids or anything why did you not research? Only that you have a problem now you wanna know WTF to do.

You now know what to do. Read up more , get a good diet and train. YOU can gain more muscle at your age then anything in your life and without the use of AAS. You haven't come close to your genetic ability.

Take all of the advice you have gotten here in this thread. Some of the best have already chimed in........

Good Luck

 

[George68539]

Thanks for the advice. I did do research although not enough and was mislead into believing nolvadex would do the job.
In the last 4 days since I started getting gyno symtomes it has only grown slowly on my left nipple. I have been on 60 mg nolva ED. (As that's all I have) I should have letro and arimidex. And from what I have read letro is the best option for reducing gyno (not eliminating) I should have letro and arimidex by Friday at the latest.
Would you recommend letro as the best option from here to fully stop the growth and possibly reduce it?

 

[scorob777]

Be careful with letro, it can zap your E2 down to zero and you will feel awful.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Be careful with letro, it can zap your E2 down to zero and you will feel awful.

This ^^^ pay attention and be careful. Your only beginning with the Gyno so if it were me I would start with only Adex at .5 mgs E3D and see it if that will relieve it. It seems too early for the lump to be getting hard yet and with that it can dissipate. Serous business to crash E2.

Make sure you get some solid advice on this forum from the experienced when using Letro. I am not the one for Letro advice.

By the way it is the left breast that is most prominent for everyone. A medical fact but I don't know myself why.

Good luck AND keep us posted for sure.

 

[tbonexl]

Thanks for the advice. I did do research although not enough and was mislead into believing nolvadex would do the job.
In the last 4 days since I started getting gyno symtomes it has only grown slowly on my left nipple. I have been on 60 mg nolva ED. (As that's all I have) I should have letro and arimidex. And from what I have read letro is the best option for reducing gyno (not eliminating) I should have letro and arimidex by Friday at the latest.
Would you recommend letro as the best option from here to fully stop the growth and possibly reduce it?

No. Letro is not the best option for gyno. Ralox would be. You have lots of research to do before you really get in over your head...

 

[George68539]

It's not possible for me to get ralox. I can only get nolva, arimidex and letro. And already have a lump which I don't think is growing anymore but I want to reduce it. From what I have read letro at the right dose is the best option considerIng I can't get ralox. Would this be ok do you think? And how mdid ch more effective is ralox than letro?

 

[oldmusclemike]

No. Letro is not the best option for gyno. Ralox would be. You have lots of research to do before you really get in over your head...

I did forget to tell you the above ^^^ Tbone is right on. AS Letro can crash you quick it isn't the preferred aid to reversing ( if you will) existing Gyno. There are some threads on this and a sticky about Estrogen control, as I forgot to mention, only thinking about you not using Letro and giving Adex a try like you should of been using from the get go.

AS Tbone and others refer you need to do much more research.

Thanks for that input Tbone !