HCG on first, test only cycle?
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Cobra Strike
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yes. after your last inject of test...the day after....start 500iu/ed for 10 days and then 4 days later start serm therapy....
this is how you would use it on a test e cycle btw
this is how you would use it on a test e cycle btw
Cobra Strike
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lets say you were using sus....then you would use the hcg like I stated for 17 days instead of 10
funky419
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right on yeah. I am using andro withe the deca ester such a long half life. First cycle so i am not going to get into the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this time. but i think i am going to stick with the 5 ester blends i really like them. altho i rpboly would like anything considering this is my first cycle.
would be a little more expensive to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with a sus cycle but Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isnt too much.
would be a little more expensive to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with a sus cycle but Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isnt too much.
reidspencer
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cobra what about test e with deca and kickstart of dbol? 10 wks deca/ 12 wks test e. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 10 days?
OmegaReign
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I could of sworn Ive read on here where you've stated to take it 500iu mon and thurs during cycle as well. Should that be done also on a test e only cycle, or is just the blast after the last injection enough?
Cobra Strike
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i would go deca 14 and test e 12...and then Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the 10 days at 500iu/ed
Cobra Strike
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ya thats the protocol for on cycle...the above was blast phase protocol for after your last inject and before pct..
also the only time I recommend using it during the blast phase only is on a guys first cycle....every cycle after that IMO should be used all the way through cycle starting on day one and then incorporating the blast phase in as well
So you're saying that I shouldn't run it all cycle, just the 10 days after for my first cycle?
From what I've been reading I believe thats what he is saying FOR FIRST CYCLE ONLY!
After first cycle the plan changes.
Cobra, any info on why not to run it on cycle for first timers? I don't think I've come across that yet.
Cobra Strike
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yup thats right bro
Cobra Strike
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the reason you dont want to run it on the first cycle is cause Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) highly aromatizes to estrogen. You want to be able to guage the level of estrogen you get from the test without adding in the hcg. So basically if you did both you would increase your estrogen levels versus if you just did test...this way you know for future cycles about where you sit at when you run test.
I agree with cobra but have been thinking about this. Either way you should use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in every cycle. It best to know exactly how you respond to test alone. Then it's ok to start adding but I guess if you wanted to use it during the first cycle, it's ok to because you will be running the two for every cycle after and will need to know how you respond to that.
I basically do think it's best to just blast at end of first cycle, then run during all others with a blast at end but I wouldn't say someone was wrong for running it on cycle the first time. Either way the blast is very important IMO. I see a lot of guys who want to use it on cycle and think it's not needed to blast but that really sets you up for a smooth recovery.
I basically do think it's best to just blast at end of first cycle, then run during all others with a blast at end but I wouldn't say someone was wrong for running it on cycle the first time. Either way the blast is very important IMO. I see a lot of guys who want to use it on cycle and think it's not needed to blast but that really sets you up for a smooth recovery.
Cobra Strike
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good points....agreed
coolhandjames
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What about 500 iu once a week during...
OmegaReign
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so basically, not wrong for running it during first cycle of test only, but definantly need blast at the end. Whats the shelf life of HCG, as I ordered enough to have for the whole cycle, but this being my first, will have a bunch left over as I am only going to blast at end.
ViegeLiredyek
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Cobra Strike
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you have to do it every four days bro
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