HCG Option Help for Test E cycle

[omgmike1]

Hi,

I'm set for my first basic cycle of 12weeks of 500mg Test E.

I have AI, Full PCT on hand, However I do not have HCG, It is shipping now (15 days is estimated)

From my understanding HCG is not needed untill weeks 2-3? So can I begin my cycle soon OR should I wait for it to arrive?

What is the worst that will happen if I do not Use HCG? Can Clomid be a sub for it temp..?


PS: I am fully aware of how it works, mixing, storing ect...

 

[ADenver]

Hi,

I'm set for my first basic cycle of 12weeks of 500mg Test E.

I have AI, Full PCT on hand, However I do not have HCG, It is shipping now (15 days is estimated)

From my understanding HCG is not needed untill weeks 2-3? So can I begin my cycle soon OR should I wait for it to arrive?

What is the worst that will happen if I do not Use HCG? Can Clomid be a sub for it temp..?


PS: I am fully aware of how it works, mixing, storing ect...

While recommended, its not "truly" necessary so I would start it anyways. And ive never heard of anyone using clomid on cycle. I say blast away!

 

[omgmike1]

Even if I did have it, would I not start my HCG injections until week 2 or 3? Or would I start it ASAP. I know it's not NEEDED, but it makes PCT easier and I heard it helps retain some of the gains that could be lost, even if diet is still in check before and after.

 

[halfwit]

The whole point of running HCG is to keep your testicles from going completely dormant as AAS turns them "off" through the pituitary gland. Clomid will not override this process as it attempts to use the pituitary, but it cannot compete as the negative feedback loop is very powerful.

The worst that can happen is a slightly reduced chance of recovery and some atrophy of your hardy boys. You'll also be lacking a few secondary hormones, but that's not a huge deal as this isn't for an extended period of time.

It's totally up to you; recovery isn't guaranteed either way, so you can start now - or wait to ensure the best outcome. You would want to start the HCG from day 1 by the way, not sure where 2-3 weeks came from.

My .02c

 

[omgmike1]

The whole point of running HCG is to keep your testicles from going completely dormant as AAS turns them "off" through the pituitary gland. Clomid will not override this process as it attempts to use the pituitary, but it cannot compete as the negative feedback loop is very powerful.

The worst that can happen is a slightly reduced chance of recovery and some atrophy of your hardy boys. You'll also be lacking a few secondary hormones, but that's not a huge deal as this isn't for an extended period of time.

It's totally up to you; recovery isn't guaranteed either way, so you can start now - or wait to ensure the best outcome. You would want to start the HCG from day 1 by the way, not sure where 2-3 weeks came from.

My .02c

I hear that TRT is not as common as people think it is. Taking a plain Test cycle in the 20s should be very likely to recover, right? Anyways, I still need some clarification when I should begin HCG 500IU injections? I'm doing E3D, should I pin it the same day I inject the test on Day 1? Or wait till week 2? 3?

I'm planning to start with 250 Test E E3D + 500IU HCG E3D + .5Adex E3D... All taken on same days.

 

[Roush]

500iu a week of hcg is all you really need

 

[SoCalSwole]

The 10 days or so you will be fine it will take at least that long for the levels of test to rise to the point where your body shuts it down anyway. Once you get your HCG I would run 250iu 3 times a week. You can pin the HCG and test all on the same day or alternate doesn't really matter. The test E that you pin today won't be metabolized and in the blood for at least 6 days anyway. Which is why it takes a few weeks for it to build up to a level where you are getting an anabolic effect.

500iu in the HCG 3 times a week is OK but honestly you don't need that much. Maybe if you had not taken any the whole cycle and wanted to give the system a jump start then the last week you would blast the HCG at 500iu 3 times a week. right before PCT but if you have it the whole cycle then 250iu 3 times a week is plenty.

Pinning the test E 3 times a week is smart also. Helps maintain consistent blood levels and less sides will occur.

 

[ADenver]

I hear that TRT is not as common as people think it is. Taking a plain Test cycle in the 20s should be very likely to recover, right?

There is no guarantee in this game. Some do, some don't. You roll the dice with every cycle.

 

[brother bundy]

for a basic test cycle u will be fine without it..But its always good to use it

 

[49ER]

Who needs big functioning balls? I sure don't makes my little trunk appear larger penis size is a illusion and I got the edge

 

[halfwit]

I hear that TRT is not as common as people think it is. Taking a plain Test cycle in the 20s should be very likely to recover, right? Anyways, I still need some clarification when I should begin HCG 500IU injections? I'm doing E3D, should I pin it the same day I inject the test on Day 1? Or wait till week 2? 3?

I'm planning to start with 250 Test E E3D + 500IU HCG E3D + .5Adex E3D... All taken on same days.

It doesn't really matter in my experience. I pin HCG the same day as it's easier to remember the injection. Careful, thinking that it can't happen to you is a recipe for disaster. TRT is far more common than one would believe. I'd wager that a good half the posters here are (or will be) on TRT.

Who needs big functioning balls? I sure don't makes my little trunk appear larger penis size is a illusion and I got the edge

LOL!

"Yo baby check out these lil nuts! Ain't my dong just HYOOOOOGE in comparison?! "

 

[brother bundy]

yo did dee get at u last night? dee who? deez nutzzzz lol..I crack myself up bahahahaha