HCG protocol on test e cycle

Ajinkya

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oky so my cycle looks like this

Week 1-12 TEST E 500mg, 250mg MONDAY AND THURSDAY
Arimidex .25mg EOD starting day 2 of my cycle
HCG @1000iu/week, split up into two pins(Mon/Thurs)

Wait 3 weeks (Arimidex .25mg EOD till 2 days for PCT/HCG @1000iu/week)
Week 16: 75mg clomid ED & 40mg novladex ED
Week 17-19: 50mg clomid & 20mg novladex


my question is.. over here where i stay 500 iu HCG is not available and also BAC water, i spoke to my doc, he said i can take 2000 iu in 1 go every 4 shots of test.. i'm in my 2nd week now and just took 2000 iu's today, is it okay if i do this?
 
is this your first cycle? what are your stats? are you an HRT patient? have you started your cycle yet or you didn't?

i'm impatient hahah so i'm a short ester lover, so i would suggest to you test prop with EOD injections especially if it's your first cycle. shorter esters = more control.

for test enth, monday and thursday injections are perfect but i think your doctor recommending you to pin 2000iu of HCG every 2 weeks is pretty dumb because HCG has a half life of 24-36 hours. keep in mind that HCG will raise your total test levels thus raising your estradiol as well, so pinning 2000iu in one go every 2 weeks will result in an aromatization spike and you don't want that. you want to keep these hormones as stable as possible in order to minimize potential side effects. everyone is different but generally anything more than 750-1000iu of HCG a week will cause too much aromatization.

first off i suggest you start your AI in the second week of your cycle, meaning the 3rd injection... the test e should just be starting to take effect by then, and then the following week i think it'll most likely be in full effect. 0.25mg EOD adex should do you good, its a good starting point, for some guys but i personally need .25mg adex ED when i use 525mg test prop a week.

second, make your HCG is real; reconstitute it accurately according to your liking so that you know exactly how much HCG you have per ML, then put a few drops on a home pregnancy test (yes, the ones girls piss on to see if theyre pregnant). if the pregnancy test comes out positive then congrats your HCG is legit.

third, i think you get the most benefits from HCG at a moderate dose during final 2 weeks of your cycle, like 300iu monday wednesday friday. but if you insist on running HCG throughout the cycle then go right ahead, at the dose and frequency stated above. keep an eye on your estradiol dont be lazy and get bloodwork.

as far as PCT/PCT prep i would recommend you do this (if you stick with test enth):
final 2 weeks of pinning test, use 300iu HCG mon/wed/fri
then drop the test completely, pin 500iu HCG every day for 2 weeks. keep an eye on your estradiol
then drop the HCG completely, start clomid 100mg ED and nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 week, then drop it to 50mg clomid ED and 20mg adex ED for the next 4 weeks of PCT.

i cant stress this enough, clomid is notorious for raising estradiol so ALWAYS keep an AI on hand the whole way. from the beginning of the cycle and even until after you're done with PCT.

and thats my 2cc's brah, good luck.
 
is this your first cycle? what are your stats? are you an HRT patient? have you started your cycle yet or you didn't?

i'm impatient hahah so i'm a short ester lover, so i would suggest to you test prop with EOD injections especially if it's your first cycle. shorter esters = more control.

for test enth, monday and thursday injections are perfect but i think your doctor recommending you to pin 2000iu of HCG every 2 weeks is pretty dumb because HCG has a half life of 24-36 hours. keep in mind that HCG will raise your total test levels thus raising your estradiol as well, so pinning 2000iu in one go every 2 weeks will result in an aromatization spike and you don't want that. you want to keep these hormones as stable as possible in order to minimize potential side effects. everyone is different but generally anything more than 750-1000iu of HCG a week will cause too much aromatization.

first off i suggest you start your AI in the second week of your cycle, meaning the 3rd injection... the test e should just be starting to take effect by then, and then the following week i think it'll most likely be in full effect. 0.25mg EOD adex should do you good, its a good starting point, for some guys but i personally need .25mg adex ED when i use 525mg test prop a week.

second, make your HCG is real; reconstitute it accurately according to your liking so that you know exactly how much HCG you have per ML, then put a few drops on a home pregnancy test (yes, the ones girls piss on to see if theyre pregnant). if the pregnancy test comes out positive then congrats your HCG is legit.

third, i think you get the most benefits from HCG at a moderate dose during final 2 weeks of your cycle, like 300iu monday wednesday friday. but if you insist on running HCG throughout the cycle then go right ahead, at the dose and frequency stated above. keep an eye on your estradiol dont be lazy and get bloodwork.

as far as PCT/PCT prep i would recommend you do this (if you stick with test enth):
final 2 weeks of pinning test, use 300iu HCG mon/wed/fri
then drop the test completely, pin 500iu HCG every day for 2 weeks. keep an eye on your estradiol
then drop the HCG completely, start clomid 100mg ED and nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 week, then drop it to 50mg clomid ED and 20mg adex ED for the next 4 weeks of PCT.

i cant stress this enough, clomid is notorious for raising estradiol so ALWAYS keep an AI on hand the whole way. from the beginning of the cycle and even until after you're done with PCT.

and thats my 2cc's brah, good luck.

Great info there.. I've already started my cycle. Did my 4th shot yesterday, and 2000 iu hcg, so week 2 is finished.. I'll take your advice and start pinning 500 iu hcg every shot from Monday.. Started adex from 2nd day @.25mg eod, going pretty smooth.. Did my pre cycle blood work, I'll try to post link.. Will do another test in my 6th week
I'm 26
179 cms
175 lbs
Training for more than 3.5 years
 
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You can preload pins with HCG and store them in the fridge for a few days. I did a write up on how to back load insulin pins, which you can find here (includes some pictures).

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...85573-how-backload-insulin-pins-pictures.html

I pin twice a week, just to keep the boys plump.

i dont inject it myself.. i generally go to a doctor.. ive posted images and links to the HCG i use.. Can you just confirm if i can use that 2000 iu 4 times (500 iu each time).. As mentioned BAC water is not available here.. Can i just preload and store it in my refrigirator.. 500 iu's x 4.. that will last for 21 days??? how do i store it if i dont use BW...
 
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i dont inject it myself.. i generally go to a doctor.. ive posted images and links to the HCG i use.. Can you just confirm if i can use that 2000 iu 4 times (500 iu each time).. As mentioned BAC water is not available here.. Can i just preload and store it in my refrigirator.. 500 iu's x 4.. that will last for 21 days??? how do i store it if i dont use BW...

If it comes as a liquid its already mixed with BAC water or similar. It should last 21 days just fine in the fridge. Yes, just divide the 2000 by 4 shots.
 
OK, i've reached dead end HCG wise, just confirmed with almost all pharmacies about 500 iu's HCG, only 2000, 5000, 10000 iu available..no benzyl alcohol so cant make my own BW no bacteriostatic water, can just do what doctor told me take 2000 iu's every 2 weeks.. or since sterile water lacks the preservative that bacteriostatic water has. Therefore the only difference is a decreased shelf life when mixed with sterile water. I may get 2 weeks out of this before it reduces in potency, but since its only a 2,000iu bottle I will use it up in almost 2 weeks. For mixing can anyone tell me how to do it?? because ll the links which ive searched have info about mixing with BW.. if anyone can do tht would be appreciated...
 
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