Hello everyone, new here - want to try gear

[the_bald_e]

What's up guys. I'm new here just wanted to say hello and ask for some advice.

I'm 21, 5'7 @ 200lbs @ 16% body fat. Been training hard since I was 16, so for about 5+ years now. Never done a cycle. I just came off a year's worth of bulking and it worked out nicely for me. I get told I have good size all the time, being that I'm 5'7 - but I've got that soft and slightly pudgy look from gaining some fat.

As far as chemicals go, I have access to pretty much anything. That is not an issue for me. The problem is, I don't know how to PROPERLY do a cycle as I have zero experience with it. I want to do a first-time cycle but I want it to be VERY mild because honestly I'm scared of aromatizing side effects like gyno. I don't necessarily want to gain a ton of size... I'm short as it is and I'd rather just get shredded as I feel right now I'm okay as far as mass goes. My diet is right on and my training is good. I've trained natural for 5+ years now and have gotten a good feel of my body over that time period. I'm also a certified trainer but that's irrelevant in the AAS world.

One of my mates recommended to me that I do an Anavar only cycle - and after doing some research on here and other websites, I get a lot of mixed opinions. Half say a 6 week cycle of 50, 50, 50, 75, 75, 100 (mg per day each week) would be good for what I want. But then a lot of the members on here say that it would be a complete waste. I just don't know what to believe.

Like I said, I'm looking for something very mild and entry-level. I just want something to give me a slight edge so that I can dip my feet in the AAS waters so to speak. I'm very afraid of side effects so I'd rather sacrifice the strength of a cycle for safety. I'm also afraid of needles so I really want to do an oral only cycle but I don't want to screw my liver up. I guess it's a double edged sword. And yes, I know that injectables are far safer and have less side effects than oral cycles - but again, I'm afraid of needles.

Any advice would be appreciated as far as what to take, how much of it to take, when to take it, and how long to take it. I keep logs of my diet and training for 3+ years now, so if and when I do start a cycle I'll be documenting the whole thing daily with pictures and food/training logs.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

I've attached a picture of myself if that helps. I just want to make it a point because I've read some of the other threads on here about 18 year old kids coming on, with about 1 year's worth of training experience saying they want to start cycling. I don't really think that's a good idea - I may even be too young (I've read that 25 years old is proper to start bc of declining test levels). Any input you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

the first cycle have to be testosterone only.

first, it's an hormone than your body knows already. and secondly very easy to recover after cycle with clomid.

the standard cycle is :

12 weeks of testo-500 mg/week

post cycle therapy will be started 2 weeks after the cyle: clomid 50mg/day ( one tabs per day) for 18 days is enough for anybody.

before to start drop 2% of BF%----> very important if you want to run it healthy.

 

[the_bald_e]

the first cycle have to be testosterone only.

first, it's an hormone than your body knows already. and secondly very easy to recover after cycle with clomid.

the standard cycle is :

12 weeks of testo-500 mg/week

post cycle therapy will be started 2 weeks after the cyle: clomid 50mg/day ( one tabs per day) for 18 days is enough for anybody.

before to start drop 2% of BF%----> very important if you want to run it healthy.

so drop down to at least 14% before I start anything? is this because of blood lipid levels?

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

so drop down to at least 14% before I start anything? is this because of blood lipid levels?

not only, but also because of gyno symptoms are usualy diminished when the user is under 15%.

we concider, here at steroidology, after 9 years of experience, added with our personnal experiences, than 15% is the good limit before to start AAS.

2% is not that mush...

what is he doing, that man at the right in the pic?

 

[the_bald_e]

not only, but also because of gyno symptoms are usualy diminished when the user is under 15%.

we concider, here at steroidology, after 9 years of experience, added with our personnal experiences, than 15% is the good limit before to start AAS.

2% is not that mush...

what is he doing, that man at the right in the pic?

LOL you know, I have never noticed that before. It looks like he's lifting a microwave

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

welcome in steroidology, and good luck with your futur cycle man! get some greens.

 

[the_bald_e]

thank you Kane.

 

[Four1Thr33]

Kane said the correct basic cycle but 21 is pretty young
I also want to add that if u want to get ripped its not going to happen very fast and def not with one cycle
Gear in no way is magic and it will take alot of dedication to reach your goals and if it's not to bulk a cut cycle is in order
In your case you will be on a cal deficit and the job of your testosterone is to hang on to your muscle mass wile u run and train your asssssssss off
Good luck my brother
Check out the cutting and bulking thread in the stickys

 

[noobmuscle]

Kane and many others will tell you to only run Test for your first cycle, and for what it's worth, I always agree.

I had a fear of needles too, but you have to decide if facing your fear is worth the end goal. You state you would trade stength for safety, yet you would rather do orals than inject. If you can't inject, some would argue you are not ready. Everyone knows the jest of oral only cycles and many of us slam people on here all the time for the thought of such a cycle. I promise, injecting is not as bad as what we make it in our mind. There are plenty people here to support you through popping your AAS cherry!

Start with Test becasue most would agree that it should be at the base of every cycle. Regardless of what side of the fence you are on with Anavar, most would agree that you would not run ANYTHING else without atleast SOME test, and the general "Fisher Price" cycle is Test at 500 mg a week split between two injections a week.

Good luck.

 

[the_bald_e]

is injection the only way to run test? if so, i may just wait until i'm 25. like i said, i'm a bit scared of needles and one of my mates who was on some kind of injectable cocktail got some serious blood clot issues and his injection site BLEW UP and looked disgusting. he had to take time off from the gym because of it and had to be rushed to the hospital.

i guess i was looking for a magic pill that was very mild. but, it probably doesn't exist and the general thought here seems to be that oral only cycles are bad especially for first timers.

 

[bcopp]

Dude just inject, dont be scared. Injecting test is better than doing an oral cycle.

 

[noobmuscle]

Come on... All the cool kids are doing it!!!

jk...jk.

 

[NewChapter]

Dude I dont want to hijack your thread but I havent figured out how to post a new one. Im getting ready for my first cycle also. Whats available to me is tren. Im worried about the side affects too. I read that if I stack it with test that it would minimize the side effects. Is this true? And is 1 ml every 3 days of tran too much?

 

[mr.spoon]

Dude I dont want to hijack your thread but I havent figured out how to post a new one. Im getting ready for my first cycle also. Whats available to me is tren. Im worried about the side affects too. I read that if I stack it with test that it would minimize the side effects. Is this true? And is 1 ml every 3 days of tran too much?

dont mess with tren on youre first or even second cycle shit is no joke, it should be test only on your first cycle,i dont even need to know ur stats to tell you that

 

[mr.spoon]

i been on tren cycles before and i regret it everytime not to mention im losing all my fukin hair because of it and im only 28!!! lol

 

[NewChapter]

Im sure I can get a hold of test but as far as the anything else I only know 1 person and tren is what he has. What about very very low doses? like 250mg or lower? Im 41 6`3 255lbs about 20 percent bf

 

[NewChapter]

LOL well I dont have much hair left anyways. Im a family guy been married 22 years. Good dad good hubby that sorta thing. I have an opportunity so I thought Id go for it you know. I dont know anyone else.

 

[mr.spoon]

Im sure I can get a hold of test but as far as the anything else I only know 1 person and tren is what he has. What about very very low doses? like 250mg or lower? Im 41 6`3 255lbs about 20 percent bf

shit you a big fella,thats the rule bro i wish someone told me this. if this is your first cycle you will love test only trust me get some test e run it for 12 weeks also do you know wat post cycle therapy (pct) or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is?

 

[NewChapter]

I guess I just need to know if I can low dose it and do it safely? Thats why Im here. Had to wait for the wife to go to bed because she would flipout if she knew what I was up too. LOL I might be better off telling her I was cheating on her........ She worries too much!

 

[NewChapter]

not a clue..... what is it?