help on clenbuterol

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hi guys

I was going to run a clenbuterol 4 weeks cycle to cut a lil bit but a guy at the gym scared the hell out of me. so here i am trying to find some more about.

i have found a lot of informations about it. about its side effects and its gains. but mostly contradictory informations.


Did you guys use it before, and what was the result (and side effect)? is it true that the Clenbu is toooo bad for the heart?


stats:
29y, 1m79 82kg (very thin bones) and 17%BF



PS: if i do, i would be running a 4 weeks cycle.
 
Well if you have an existing heart situation yes it can be dangerous. I have only heard about palpitations on clen but that's easily handled by backing off dosage. Generally you start at 20 mg & ramp up up from there. I can only handle 4 20 mg doses in a day but others more. 2 weeks on 1 week off is the cycle alot run unless you introduce benadryl evry 2 weeks. 6 weeks is the average cycle I would say. T-3 is often ran alongside clen for even better results. Diet is key alongside cardio & I wouldn't run clen unless I was at 12% or less.
 
take taurine supplements.
clenbuterol depletes this from your body.
taurine has been shown to have cardioprotective characteristics.
I don't know the dosage, but personally I would go anywhere from 2-5g/day.

the heart problems become more problematic when you have to up your dosage to get a good effect; because high levels of clen also hit the beta-1 receptors on the heart.

drink lots of water to avoid dehydration.
 
Well if you have an existing heart situation yes it can be dangerous. I have only heard about palpitations on clen but that's easily handled by backing off dosage. Generally you start at 20 mg & ramp up up from there. I can only handle 4 20 mg doses in a day but others more. 2 weeks on 1 week off is the cycle alot run unless you introduce benadryl evry 2 weeks. 6 weeks is the average cycle I would say. T-3 is often ran alongside clen for even better results. Diet is key alongside cardio & I wouldn't run clen unless I was at 12% or less.

shouldn't you add benadryl anyway ?
 
take taurine supplements.
clenbuterol depletes this from your body.
taurine has been shown to have cardioprotective characteristics.
I don't know the dosage, but personally I would go anywhere from 2-5g/day.

the heart problems become more problematic when you have to up your dosage to get a good effect; because high levels of clen also hit the beta-1 receptors on the heart.

drink lots of water to avoid dehydration.

Great information guambomb!

I'm running clen several weeks on - two off - and am seeing great results - however I'm also running T3 which is helping.

Right now I'm on my off cycle and will have to try adding taurine.

Like others say - just start low - usually at 20 mcg up to 160 mcg.

If you have ever ran a ECA stack and do well with it - then I would think you'll do fine.

If anyone considers T3 - here's what I found - as there's a lot of conflicting information.

Some people say stay away from it because it's to easy to go into a catabolic state from it.

We'll I have seen studies say that a catabolic state doesn't happen until you go over 100 mcg - however I've also seen a lot of people say they loved it and did well except they felt they were in a catabolic state at 100.

So - i've decided to play it safe and run 40 twice a day which brings me to 80 mcg and feel really good at this dose.
 
I got some clen before and was told to pyrimad on and off it and it was supposed to be 3weeks on 3 weeks off 3 weeks on
 
Great information guambomb!

I'm running clen several weeks on - two off - and am seeing great results - however I'm also running T3 which is helping.

Right now I'm on my off cycle and will have to try adding taurine.

Like others say - just start low - usually at 20 mcg up to 160 mcg.

If you have ever ran a ECA stack and do well with it - then I would think you'll do fine.

If anyone considers T3 - here's what I found - as there's a lot of conflicting information.

Some people say stay away from it because it's to easy to go into a catabolic state from it.

We'll I have seen studies say that a catabolic state doesn't happen until you go over 100 mcg - however I've also seen a lot of people say they loved it and did well except they felt they were in a catabolic state at 100.

So - i've decided to play it safe and run 40 twice a day which brings me to 80 mcg and feel really good at this dose.

haha just glad somebody found it useful!
and for what its worth, I take Taurine alongside clenbuterol (as well as in the off-time).
I add in a little bit of T3 as well, but I shy away from using too much not because of the potential for catabolism--but due to my fears of shutting down my thyroid gland (a condition called thyrotoxicosis factictia).

It might also help to keep in mind that clenbuterol has a long half life reported upwards of 36hrs (with a biphasic half-life...that is to say, it has two peaks in your blood).

one last nerdy thing:
clenbuterol has been used to treat muscular dystrophy at a dose of 30-40mcg/day for 6-18 months (in a sample size of 4 adults). Results of treatment showed that power and volume of well-preservered muscles (those not affected by the muscular dystrophy) increased. The rapid phase has a 1/2 life of close to 10hrs and the slower phase is closer to 36hrs.

If you wanted to be really tricky...you could add a beta-1 blocker (i.e., metoprolol), which could prevent high concentrations of clenbuterol from hitting the heart's beta-1 receptors.

If you are using T3 as well, then it should be noted that T3 upregulates Beta-1 receptors on the heart (and other places)...so a beta blocker might not be a bad call.

CAVEAT: I have NOT tried this myself, I'm just throwing out hypotheses and I hope to hear from someone who has mastered this combo of pharmaceuticals.

ADDENDUM: if you use a beta-blocker (like the aforementioned metoprolol)--you MUST taper down! Otherwise, upon discontinuance of beta-blocker will lead to some pretty bad heart palpitations (due to upregulation of beta-1 receptors while on metoprolol).
 
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haha just glad somebody found it useful!
and for what its worth, I take Taurine alongside clenbuterol (as well as in the off-time).
I add in a little bit of T3 as well, but I shy away from using too much not because of the potential for catabolism--but due to my fears of shutting down my thyroid gland (a condition called thyrotoxicosis factictia).

It might also help to keep in mind that clenbuterol has a long half life reported upwards of 36hrs (with a biphasic half-life...that is to say, it has two peaks in your blood).

one last nerdy thing:
clenbuterol has been used to treat muscular dystrophy at a dose of 30-40mcg/day for 6-18 months (in a sample size of 4 adults). Results of treatment showed that power and volume of well-preservered muscles (those not affected by the muscular dystrophy) increased. The rapid phase has a 1/2 life of close to 10hrs and the slower phase is closer to 36hrs.

If you wanted to be really tricky...you could add a beta-1 blocker (i.e., metoprolol), which could prevent high concentrations of clenbuterol from hitting the heart's beta-1 receptors.

If you are using T3 as well, then it should be noted that T3 upregulates Beta-1 receptors on the heart (and other places)...so a beta blocker might not be a bad call.

CAVEAT: I have NOT tried this myself, I'm just throwing out hypotheses and I hope to hear from someone who has mastered this combo of pharmaceuticals.

ADDENDUM: if you use a beta-blocker (like the aforementioned metoprolol)--you MUST taper down! Otherwise, upon discontinuance of beta-blocker will lead to some pretty bad heart palpitations (due to upregulation of beta-1 receptors while on metoprolol).

Guy knows his shit, i dont need google any more...
 
thank you for all those explanations ;)

i heard so much shit about it a the gym. but i see now everyone was bullshitting about it.


haha just glad somebody found it useful!
and for what its worth, I take Taurine alongside clenbuterol (as well as in the off-time).
I add in a little bit of T3 as well, but I shy away from using too much not because of the potential for catabolism--but due to my fears of shutting down my thyroid gland (a condition called thyrotoxicosis factictia).

It might also help to keep in mind that clenbuterol has a long half life reported upwards of 36hrs (with a biphasic half-life...that is to say, it has two peaks in your blood).

one last nerdy thing:
clenbuterol has been used to treat muscular dystrophy at a dose of 30-40mcg/day for 6-18 months (in a sample size of 4 adults). Results of treatment showed that power and volume of well-preservered muscles (those not affected by the muscular dystrophy) increased. The rapid phase has a 1/2 life of close to 10hrs and the slower phase is closer to 36hrs.

If you wanted to be really tricky...you could add a beta-1 blocker (i.e., metoprolol), which could prevent high concentrations of clenbuterol from hitting the heart's beta-1 receptors.

If you are using T3 as well, then it should be noted that T3 upregulates Beta-1 receptors on the heart (and other places)...so a beta blocker might not be a bad call.

CAVEAT: I have NOT tried this myself, I'm just throwing out hypotheses and I hope to hear from someone who has mastered this combo of pharmaceuticals.

ADDENDUM: if you use a beta-blocker (like the aforementioned metoprolol)--you MUST taper down! Otherwise, upon discontinuance of beta-blocker will lead to some pretty bad heart palpitations (due to upregulation of beta-1 receptors while on metoprolol).

i used T3 3 months ago but i had to stop it quickly coz of insomnia and some other weird reactions.

i guess this time it's gonna be only Clenbuterol.

one more question. when i first used Anavar i took some liver protector 2 weeks before starting the cycle. do i need to take some as well with clenbuterol?
 
one more question. when i first used Anavar i took some liver protector 2 weeks before starting the cycle. do i need to take some as well with clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol has not demonstrated hepatotoxicity in any clinical trials that I know of...nor have I heard of anyone who 'abuses' it ending up with liver damage.
 
I have yet to use clen, but do like T3. Have ran it as long as 4 months, without permanently shutting down my thyroid. The doctors I spoke to did not feel as this would happen.

Some are idiots and wanted me to stop cold turkey.
I prefer a long and drawn out taper and this works perfect for me with no deleterious effects.
 
I have yet to use clen, but do like T3. Have ran it as long as 4 months, without permanently shutting down my thyroid. The doctors I spoke to did not feel as this would happen.

Some are idiots and wanted me to stop cold turkey.
I prefer a long and drawn out taper and this works perfect for me with no deleterious effects.

Thanks for sharing this info TruePitBull.
I admit that I get needlessly anxious over usage of T3...I'll eventually allow it to have a larger impact in future cycles (with long tapers as you have done).
 
i started a the clenbu 2 days ago. i first took 20 the first and the second day. i didnt feel anything.
then today, i took 40. dont know if it's the placebo effect but my hands are a lil bit shaking.

my blood pressure seems to be the same as usual (11-6). but my hart beating is a higher then what im use to. im usually around 50b/m but now im about 80 to 84b/m

do i have to worry about?
 
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i started a the clenbu 2 days ago. i first took 20 the first and the second day. i didnt feel anything.
then today, i took 40. dont know if it's the placebo effect but my hands are a lil bit shaking.

my blood pressure is the same as i use to have (11-6). but my hart beating is a higher then what im use to. im usually around 50b/m but now im about 80 to 84b/m

do i have to worry about?
This is normal. My wife tells me my heart sounds like it's beating out of my chest. As long as your bp is in reasonable limits your fine. It takes 60-80 mg ed in 3-4 doses for me to get that jittery feeling which is where you know it's working. Ramp up or down as your body adjusts.
 
i will check my BP twice a day. just in case :)

shall i split the doses as well? coz until now, im taking all of it the morning at once.
 
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