Help with Test E and Deca cycle

[jake33]

Hey 34, 5'8 173 18% bf

Cylce experience 2 12 week cycles
1st 250mg/wk sust
2nd 500mg/wk test e.

Looking to do a 12 wk 600mg/wk test e and 10 wk 300mg/ wk deca.
wk 1-12 testE 600 mg/ wk
wk 1-10 deca 300 mg/wk
wk 2-14 adex 1mg e3d
wk 14-18 pct

PCT nolvadex/clomid....starting 2wks after last pin of test
nolvadex of 40 40 20 20
clomid of 50 50 50 50



My worry is prolactin sides with all the horr0r stories of deca d... so I am doing lower dose and shorter cycle of deca than recommended. Is this dosage enough to cause side effects? and can I make gains at this dose of deca? having not used it before not sure what to expect.

Will be taking a-dex 1mg e3d starting at wk 2. Also heard 5P5 will help with prolactin as well as some other otc stuff. Is it enough? Dont really want to take prmi or caber with their sides.

I will also be doing a 5x5 wo routine combined with 2-3 hypertrophy 8-12 reps. I will be working each muscle 2x wk, as I dont make good gains with 1x wk. Is there a better bulking workout routine?

I am doing carb cycling 3200-3500 cals daily pretty clean will be adding alot of read meat in for cycle. but have heard carb backloading is good for gains also.

 

[bonexyster]

That strategy isn't a good one. You need minimum 12 weeks on deca because it takes like 8 to really get rolling so that'd leave you with a 2-3 week cycle. You need to run your clomid 100/75/50/50 personally I use to run mine like this 100/100/75/50. And deca dislikes nolva, it can cause prolactin issues. Run something different just to manage estrogen thats why you need to run the clomid high to compensate.

 

[Metalhead]

Get some prami from rui to prevent progesterone sides. X2 on test 14 weeks, deca 12, and with the half life of deca, and the time between your last deca shot and starting pct, your pct protocol should be fine. Best of luck

 

[jake33]

the only reason i was cutting it short was to see how i reacted to deca......i was thinking about getting caber for thr prolaction sides i have read prami had some nasty sides and hell on stomach

 

[Metalhead]

the only reason i was cutting it short was to see how i reacted to deca......i was thinking about getting caber for thr prolaction sides i have read prami had some nasty sides and hell on stomach

Good luck on finding caber. Only reason I recommended prami. The active half life is around 2 weeks, so if you react badly to it, it's gonna take a bit to clear. The reason I recommended 14 test, 12 deca is because I saw a big increase in weight in the last 2 weeks on my cycle. I will tell you though, once the deca wears off, you're gonna miss it lol that shit does wonders for your joints

 

[jake33]

i guess i need to read up on prami have u ran it? if so how was the experience

 

[Metalhead]

I ran caber because I was lucky to find it at the time haha but I will have to go to Prami when I start my tren cycle. I know halfwit has dialed his in right so maybe he will chime in

 

[jake33]

how well do you guys trust the advertisements on here

 

[jake33]

bump

 

[Metalhead]

Do a little reading and you'll find out bud

 

[jake33]

been reading seems like there is a method to all this madness thank bro