Hemocrit high....Again WTH??

[maurij1]

Gave blood yesterday and barely passed the pre screening because my hemocrit was 19...20 is the cut off. Blood pressure was high as well, 150/92 but as long the lower number isn't over 100 they'll accept it. Question is why is my hemocrit still high on just 175mg of test a week? I purposly dropped the 200mg of deca because I was sure that was causing it and I really miss the deca for my knees. Last time I gave blood was about 3 1/2 months ago.

Thinking I'm going to have to set my calendar and every 56 days make sure I give blood...seems like my only option??

My next cycle starts next week and since I figure if my hemocrit is high on 175mgs of test I may as well add the deca back in...Thoughts??

 

[Megatron28]

First of all, that is RBC that they measure. Not hematocrit
General rule of thumb though is to multiply by three to estimate your hematocrit.

Guys on TRT have to donate blood regularly. So do you.

 

[maurij1]

First of all, that is RBC that they measure. Not hematocrit
General rule of thumb though is to multiply by three to estimate your hematocrit.

Guys on TRT have to donate blood regularly. So do you.

Yes you are correct, I believe you told me this last time...but why do they call it a hemocrit test? I even asked the guy twice what it was! Also if I'm to multiply by 3 that would be 57 which would still be a high hemocrit number.

 

[Megatron28]

Yes you are correct, I believe you told me this last time...but why do they call it a hemocrit test? I even asked the guy twice what it was! Also if I'm to multiply by 3 that would be 57 which would still be a high hemocrit number.

I don't know why the person is calling it the wrong thing.

RBC and Hematocrit tend to move together so it is very likely your hematocrit is elevated as well.

 

[maurij1]

I don't know why the person is calling it the wrong thing.

RBC and Hematocrit tend to move together so it is very likely your hematocrit is elevated as well.

Guess it really doesn't matter what they call it as long as I know what it is. Do blood thinners have any effect on hemocrit or am I thinking wrong here?

 

[cbburrr]

That's actually hemoglobin that they measured at 19, it's a protein in the blood.

It tends to move in line with RBC and hematocrit.

The effects of deca linger for months, so not surprising that you still have high numbers. Deca is used to treat anemia, so it's really good at cranking out the RBC's
I had the same thing happen after a short run of adrol, 8 weeks after stopping it I had hemoglobin getting close to 20


I think one of the thngs we can do to help keep it down is to stay super hydrated, I hypothesise that thick blood moving slowly delivers o2 poorly and tells your body to compensate by making even more RBC's

 

[cbburrr]

Guess it really doesn't matter what they call it as long as I know what it is. Do blood thinners have any effect on hemocrit or am I thinking wrong here?

nope, blood thinners have no effect on RBC, hematocrit of hemoglobin.

 

[maurij1]

That's actually hemoglobin that they measured at 19, it's a protein in the blood.

It tends to move in line with RBC and hematocrit.

The effects of deca linger for months, so not surprising that you still have high numbers. Deca is used to treat anemia, so it's really good at cranking out the RBC's
I had the same thing happen after a short run of adrol, 8 weeks after stopping it I had hemoglobin getting close to 20


I think one of the thngs we can do to help keep it down is to stay super hydrated, I hypothesise that thick blood moving slowly delivers o2 poorly and tells your body to compensate by making even more RBC's[/QUOTE

Damn, guess I'll just have to stay on top of my blood donations! Thanks everyone!!

 

[Megatron28]

That's actually hemoglobin that they measured at 19, it's a protein in the blood.

It tends to move in line with RBC and hematocrit.

The effects of deca linger for months, so not surprising that you still have high numbers. Deca is used to treat anemia, so it's really good at cranking out the RBC's
I had the same thing happen after a short run of adrol, 8 weeks after stopping it I had hemoglobin getting close to 20


I think one of the thngs we can do to help keep it down is to stay super hydrated, I hypothesise that thick blood moving slowly delivers o2 poorly and tells your body to compensate by making even more RBC's

Thanks! Sorry for messing that up!!!

 

[Roush]

Damn, guess I'll just have to stay on top of my blood donations! Thanks everyone!!

some guys are more prone then other guys in regards to hematocrit , rbc, and testosterones effect on them (all AAS for that matter). some guys stay in normal ranges for years , and some guys get elevated levels quickly and its a struggle.

can't remember where I read this or the details , but I recall that guys from anglo saxon and upper european decent are more prone to hematocrit/rbc issues.
not sure if thats you or not.

But , one thing you may have to do , on top of donating regularly (if you run gear year round or TRT) , is go off completely for 4+ months and detox. of course no one wants to do that, and it sucks, But at some point if donating blood , double units of plasma, etc is not working, and your levels stay high , your blood pressure is still staying elevated, your resting heart rate is remaining high , etc.. you've got to just bite the bullet and do a full detox off of ALL aas, including test and TRT . you can't keep injecting something that is contributing continually to the problem.

Detox off of all gear definitely works. your body gets to a point that these negative health factors wear on you and nothing you do works. awhile back i was having same issues with blood pressure , high hematocrit, etc. and overall not feeling great . i stopped TRT and all gear for 6 months . Everything was corrected. my blood pressure went from way high down to 110/65,, resting pulse from 92 to 75 . even got comments that my skin and complexion looked better (i had a flushed appearance all the time with the elevated rbc and blood pressure)

my sex life sucked at that time , and i dealt with a lot of the low/no testosterone side effects and some brain fog . BUT, my cardiac and related health parameters improved . THEN when the 6 months was over and I went back on gear , i blew up. the gear kicked in big time and felt like i was making newbie gains again. i guess the androgen 'receptors' were fresh and ready to go.

its worth a try if nothing else your doing is working. and don't be afraid of loosing all your gains, muscle memory is a wonderful thing . when you jump back on gear it comes back plus some

 

[luckypaul]

If you can't stay on top of your HCT brother you need a hematologist. I drop 500ml every time my HCT is higher than 48. Many many years of AAS use.

 

[maurij1]

I'm going to donate as soon as my 56 days are up and see if staying to a tighter donation schedule will keep me where I should be otherwise I think when this cycle is over I'll do what Roush says and just detox my whole body. I've been on self admin trt for about the last 6 months and just started my 4th cycle. I'm usually very detailed in everything I do when it comes to my aas usage but things got crazy over the summer and I got sloppy. I'm documenting everything this time around and being super strict on my diet and suppliments but if that doesn't keep things in check than I will do the detox. Thanks everyone for the input!!

On a side note i've talked to a few other guys that cycle that are around my age and I am amazed that none of them do blood work or really do anything as far as an AI or PCT. I ask them what there blood work looks like and they give me the deer in the headlights look!!

 

[Megatron28]

I'm going to donate as soon as my 56 days are up and see if staying to a tighter donation schedule will keep me where I should be otherwise I think when this cycle is over I'll do what Roush says and just detox my whole body. I've been on self admin trt for about the last 6 months and just started my 4th cycle. I'm usually very detailed in everything I do when it comes to my aas usage but things got crazy over the summer and I got sloppy. I'm documenting everything this time around and being super strict on my diet and suppliments but if that doesn't keep things in check than I will do the detox. Thanks everyone for the input!!

On a side note i've talked to a few other guys that cycle that are around my age and I am amazed that none of them do blood work or really do anything as far as an AI or PCT. I ask them what there blood work looks like and they give me the deer in the headlights look!!

Tell them to log in here and start learning. We are all better off when people cycle responsibly.

 

[maurij1]

Tell them to log in here and start learning. We are all better off when people cycle responsibly.

That's my goal Megatron, I always bring it up and try to direct them here. I got one guy on trt to come here and read about trt because he couldn't figure out why he felt like shit again the second week after his injection. I made 2 very basic suggestions from what I've learned here and it made all the difference for him. The guys I know that cycle all love the broscience because it means less work for them and as a result they blow up and shrink back down as soon as there cycle is over. Some are starting to listen and ask questions becuase they've noticed that although my gains are small, they're steady and I keep them. Sooner or later I'll get them to listen and get them here!

 

[Milton]

That's my goal Megatron, I always bring it up and try to direct them here. I got one guy on trt to come here and read about trt because he couldn't figure out why he felt like shit again the second week after his injection. I made 2 very basic suggestions from what I've learned here and it made all the difference for him. The guys I know that cycle all love the broscience because it means less work for them and as a result they blow up and shrink back down as soon as there cycle is over. Some are starting to listen and ask questions becuase they've noticed that although my gains are small, they're steady and I keep them. Sooner or later I'll get them to listen and get them here!

it can only help.

 

[Milton]

is your hematocrit still high?