HGH and Test e - First Cycle

[qikshot]

Hi all,

First post - sorry about the stupid question but I havent stumbled across this coupling yet...

Am convinced now that my first cycle should be test e, 8-12 weeks and at 250mg twice a week... I am currently dealing with conflicting views on post cycle therapy (pct) - whether it is even necessary during the first cycle but am convinced it is and am looking into options (stan seems to be the way, but also not sure)

now, spanner in the works, a mate of mine has started heralding the HGH benefits and am tempted to add this to my first cycle... This is a much longer cycle, and far more expensive (and as my mate says - "lasting"). How true the benefits are, i dont know. However, what could be the result of adding HGH to a test e cycle?

Any recommendations? Experience? it is my first cycle and I am currently 5'11" and 70kgs - cant gain, but am soon to solve that problem...

thanks in advance...

 

[Ythrashin]

Rest of your stats bro? How old are you? How long you been lifting? Goals?........

BTW- post cycle therapy (pct) is always a MUST! (Unless you are on TRT)

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Im setting a few apprentices of mine up with that same cycle. Test Prop is the best option, but will cost 2-3x more in effect of duration needed. But as far as HGH/Test cycling, I WISH i would have started with that from the beginning. Chances ARE you'll gain what you always wished to have and maintenance is rather tedious but actually easier than most think! Once ya come off, shift training intensity down in essence from hard heavy weight bulking lifts to light hi reps but then change back and forth every other week and you should keep your body guessing and maintaining obviously needed strength(in muscle volume) because of the demand still present. Of course, keep igniting your metabolism up with cardio all the way til ur 6' under! I say PCT depends.. Mainly just nolvadex to block elevated estrogen, and the other part, rebooting test production with clomid. If severe symptoms occur, use letrozol to knock estrogen down to practically zero -PERIOD

 

[Ythrashin]

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Im setting a few apprentices of mine up with that same cycle. Test Prop is the best option, but will cost 2-3x more in effect of duration needed. But as far as HGH/Test cycling, I WISH i would have started with that from the beginning. Chances ARE you'll gain what you always wished to have and maintenance is rather tedious but actually easier than most think! Once ya come off, shift training intensity down in essence from hard heavy weight bulking lifts to light hi reps but then change back and forth every other week and you should keep your body guessing and maintaining obviously needed strength(in muscle volume) because of the demand still present. Of course, keep igniting your metabolism up with cardio all the way til ur 6' under! I say PCT depends.. Mainly just nolvadex to block elevated estrogen, and the other part, rebooting test production with clomid. If severe symptoms occur, use letrozol to knock estrogen down to practically zero -PERIOD

Im guessing your knowledge about AAS must be from fellow bro's at the gym or unconventional...

PCT is "rebooting test production ".

Nolva is an oldschool method of controlling estro during a cycle. Nolva is actually just as effective in pct as clomid.They are both SERMS.

AI's are the way to go when controlling estro during a cycle. LETRO is an AI... LETRO is usually not a good idea for gyno prevention/estro control. Adex or aromasin is a better choice....

AI's prevent testosterone from being converted into estrogen. Nolva or clomid block estrogen at some receptor sites. Nolva can actually raise total estro and lowers IGF.

 

[Conrad415]

Hi all,

First post - sorry about the stupid question but I havent stumbled across this coupling yet...

Am convinced now that my first cycle should be test e, 8-12 weeks and at 250mg twice a week... I am currently dealing with conflicting views on PCT - whether it is even necessary during the first cycle but am convinced it is and am looking into options (stan seems to be the way, but also not sure)

now, spanner in the works, a mate of mine has started heralding the HGH benefits and am tempted to add this to my first cycle... This is a much longer cycle, and far more expensive (and as my mate says - "lasting"). How true the benefits are, i dont know. However, what could be the result of adding HGH to a test e cycle?

Any recommendations? Experience? it is my first cycle and I am currently 5'11" and 70kgs - cant gain, but am soon to solve that problem...

thanks in advance...

First cycle and adding HGH? Drop it.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

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Im guessing your knowledge about AAS must be from fellow bro's at the gym or unconventional...

PCT is "rebooting test production ".

Nolva is an oldschool method of controlling estro during a cycle. Nolva is actually just as effective in pct as clomid.They are both SERMS.

AI's are the way to go when controlling estro during a cycle. LETRO is an AI... LETRO is usually not a good idea for gyno prevention/estro control. Adex or aromasin is a better choice....

AI's prevent testosterone from being converted into estrogen. Nolva or clomid block estrogen at some receptor sites. Nolva can actually raise total estro and lowers IGF.

Ok... Im not seeing ANY difference in what I described pct protocol to be and what you seem to think youre correcting me on. My knowledge is merely from personal experience and from with whom I purchase, as i see what he does and what works differently between.. Regardless, I take letrozol thru out my cycle and use nolva/clomid for pct as well as sexual stimulant supplements for libido and girth retention.. I suppose i do use two serms for pct as well as letro all the way from day1 starting the cycle, but I hear thats very sound hence my design as such