HGH vs Deca or Tren

[Jordan89]

G'day Guys,

Im about halfway through a 6 week cycle of Winstol. I started this cycle because i was after reasonable gains while stell keeping the ripped looked plus i was told you gets tonnes of extra energy and little or no side effects (apart from a few e.g liver damage).

It has been rubbish for me, i have not gained hardly any size and i think i could have gained the same amount of strength without it (Possible fakes?)

I will be having a break after i finish the cycle and will be looking at starting a new cycle. Was thinking of taking Deca but it sounds as though the estrogen and acne sides are greater than Tren/Fina which from what i heard is 'cleaner' and gives great gains and strength.

I then started reading into HGH which claims to be a miracle drug - reversing ageing, cleansing your system, helps the brain, lots of energy and even builds muscle. Some of it seems to be very cheap as well (around $50)

All of this with no side effects. It just seems to good to be true.

What are your thoughts/Expiriences

Cheers Guys

 

[jizman]

hgh aint chap

 

[zephyrdaz]

Tren certainly doesn't have less sides than Deca, side on Tren can be harsh.

You cannot compare HGH to steroids, HGH will be of almost no benefit for you unless your over 30 and if you are looking for gains you need gear, HGH will not give you any real gains.

Real HGH is not cheap

 

[fmrmarineinbiz]

HGH is also not something the typical exited new guy should just jump into. You'll get a LOT more out of your money (assuming you can in fact get the gear you want in AUS...damn those customs agents), with testosterone. Tren, nor deca should be run by themselves, nor together. You want a testosterone base in your cycle to counteract the sexual shutdown from Tren/deca. Sure, sure Tren is great, gives "lean mass", bla bla bla..but run it on its' own, and you will be sorry. Don't count on getting an erection.

 

[Jordan89]

O right cheers for your help guys,

So all the hype about hgh and all that sort of stuff for 50 bucks a bottle are probs all fakes then?

Ive been looking at xxxxxx.com and they say they can post it to aus discreetley or something. Do they get caught fairley often? or does it generaly get to you ok.

 

[god-send]

lmfao the roid store is a crock of s h it and all there products are herbal crap that will nothing for you .

dont waste you money man

 

[Live2Train]

$50 would only get you about 3 days worth of legit HGH. You better save your money and do quite a bit more research before you end up getting scammed. Post your stats ex. (age, height, weight, cycle history, etc.) and I am sure someone will be able to suggest a very favorable cycle that will help you meet your goals. Good luck!

 

[Jordan89]

Im 18 - 70kg's, benching 62
on my first cycle of winstrol - took it as a bit of a tester as to how my body would react and while there has been no sides, there is not much results either so im looking at either starting either a deca or dbol cycle after i have come down from the Winstrol (winny) cycle...

 

[jonk430]

do your homework on your gear... there are alot of scam on the net becareful who you get your stuff from. Even the most professional looking of sites most of the time are scams!

 

[estray]

They are often fake, especially if theyre selling $50 hgh, but something you said struck me as funny. The fact that youre stated youre concerned with keeping that ripped as hell look tells me that you probably dont eat enough food. Post your diet so we can see.

 

[Jordan89]

I am trying to eat about 8 meals a day - mainley proteins (cans of fish, heaps of nuts and boiled eggs). Sometimes my body just feels like a furnace and burns as much as i can throw in it along with 6 litres a day but sometimes i struggle to get through 5 meals. I have always had difficulty putting on weight, so whatever gym i did more or less built strength and toneing.

Im thinking of starting an 8 week cycle of dbol with anti-est part way through the cycle. Not sure if im ready just yet to add test to the cycle....

Am basically looking to get some gains and see dbol as the most effective way of doing so, provided i handle the sides correctly and continue training after the cycle naturaly to try and keep some mass.

 

[zephyrdaz]

He's only 18, and no where near his natural limit.

We shouldn't be giving him advice on taking steroids, he needs advice on diet and training

 

[gymlion77]

Yo at your age you really should try adding extra calories and then going heavy and slow for a few months. I can almost guarantee that if you up your calories exponentially that it will give you bump in strength and a bump in size that you will see and enjoy! make sure you try resting, eating, and really going at it in the gym think about every rep and get that pump.

 

[zephyrdaz]

Im 18 - 70kg's, benching 62
on my first cycle of winstrol - took it as a bit of a tester as to how my body would react and while there has been no sides, there is not much results either so im looking at either starting either a deca or dbol cycle after i have come down from the Winstrol (winny) cycle...

Were you aware of the possible damage that can be done with running a cycle at your age?

Post details about your diet and training and what was the details of the Winstrol (winny) cycle you did (dosage, lengh and what PCT).

You do not want to be running a Deca cycle on it's own, it should not be run on it's own. Give us some details and we'll try to help you out.

 

[Jordan89]

My diet consists of 3 Eggs in the morning and a 30g protein shake
then at work about 200g's of cashews throughout the day and a bowl of oats
250g's of baked beans for morning tea
salmon and salad sanwich for lunch
steak and veggies and 30g shake after gym
chicken and veggies before bed

Im about 3 weeks through a 5 week cycle of winstrol... hasnt really done much for me. Im getting the stiff joints and a bit of strength but its not adding any size to me or any real amount strength.

Have decided (unless you guys suggest otherwise) to do a cycle of dbol with nolva to limit sides....
What are your thoughts?

Thanks for the help guys

 

[FuckOprah]

HOLY FUCK YOU NEED TO DO RESEARCH, theres a thread for cycles for specific goals, if u ran Winstrol (winny) alone hoping to make some good gains and are now looking to run dbol ALONE AGAIN, then you have a shit ton of reading and catching up to do, ill get you started.. TEST IS THE BASE OF EVERY CYCLE NEVER FORGET IT.

 

[Live2Train]

Im 18 - 70kg's, benching 62
on my first cycle of winstrol - took it as a bit of a tester as to how my body would react and while there has been no sides, there is not much results either so im looking at either starting either a deca or dbol cycle after i have come down from the Winstrol (winny) cycle...

Only 18 and thinking about doing HGH, you can't be serious. Dude you really should do tons of research before you even think about using anything. Like others have suggested, up your diet, lift hard, and get plenty of rest. At your age you have not reached your true potential and should stay away from Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for a few years. I know that is not what you came here to hear, but we are only looking out for your best interest. Good luck!

 

[estray]

I am trying to eat about 8 meals a day - mainley proteins (cans of fish, heaps of nuts and boiled eggs). Sometimes my body just feels like a furnace and burns as much as i can throw in it along with 6 litres a day but sometimes i struggle to get through 5 meals. I have always had difficulty putting on weight, so whatever gym i did more or less built strength and toneing.

Im thinking of starting an 8 week cycle of dbol with anti-est part way through the cycle. Not sure if im ready just yet to add test to the cycle....

Am basically looking to get some gains and see dbol as the most effective way of doing so, provided i handle the sides correctly and continue training after the cycle naturaly to try and keep some mass.

Often for hardgainers swithing to 3-4 very big meals will yield better results.