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Wow. My dad, nearing 70 years of age, was recently put on testosterone cypionate injections by his endo. Sounds good so far.
I was getting optimistic when he said the endo gave him the prescription for a vial, he had it filled, and the nurse was going to teach him how to give himself shots. She would do the first, and then he would self inject at home. I was thinking to myself this sounded really good.
21g 1.5" needle into quads. (Uh, aren't we at the point we can consider subcutaneous an option now? Concerns rise, but just barely.) 100mg every two weeks. (Oh crap, concerns just skyrocketed.)
I asked when the doc would do followup bloodwork and if he was testing estrogen levels. Evidently the doc told my dad "There's no need. If you start growing boobs, then we'll just drop the testosterone because it's not working. If not, then you're fine."
And BAM, just like that I want to go beat the crap out of some doc I've never met.
Before I did it, I'd ask:
1) Do the words "hepatic adenoma" mean anything to you?
2) Would even mildly elevated estrogen levels in a man who is already struggling with blood pressure problems seem problematic?
3) If "boob growth" as you put it occurred, would just ending the injections return dad to normal? (We know just cutting off the T would be awful!)
And then the beating would commence. It's malpractice. Malfeasance. Malevolence.
And if my dad's estrogen levels skyrocket and he has a stroke, guess what gets blamed! Evil TESTOSTERONE, because that's what the doc gave him.
And as long as I'm angry at this doc, may God bless all the docs out there that take their work seriously in this area. There are a few pioneers that write books and are well know. God bless them. There are lots of docs that are open minded to learning and work WITH their patients in a partnership focused on health. God bless all of them.
I told my dad he might consider breaking up the shots into at least 2X a week, same total amount, and he listened to my reasoning and said he would prefer that. He said right now the biggest effect was bigger arm muscles..."from the workout I get just shoving that harpoon into my leg!" So we talked about how I do it, and he wants to try out subcutaneous injections.
Man, it really irks me when some doc and his ridiculous concepts have the chance to harm my family. It is unlike any other profession.
I was getting optimistic when he said the endo gave him the prescription for a vial, he had it filled, and the nurse was going to teach him how to give himself shots. She would do the first, and then he would self inject at home. I was thinking to myself this sounded really good.
21g 1.5" needle into quads. (Uh, aren't we at the point we can consider subcutaneous an option now? Concerns rise, but just barely.) 100mg every two weeks. (Oh crap, concerns just skyrocketed.)
I asked when the doc would do followup bloodwork and if he was testing estrogen levels. Evidently the doc told my dad "There's no need. If you start growing boobs, then we'll just drop the testosterone because it's not working. If not, then you're fine."
And BAM, just like that I want to go beat the crap out of some doc I've never met.
Before I did it, I'd ask:
1) Do the words "hepatic adenoma" mean anything to you?
2) Would even mildly elevated estrogen levels in a man who is already struggling with blood pressure problems seem problematic?
3) If "boob growth" as you put it occurred, would just ending the injections return dad to normal? (We know just cutting off the T would be awful!)
And then the beating would commence. It's malpractice. Malfeasance. Malevolence.
And if my dad's estrogen levels skyrocket and he has a stroke, guess what gets blamed! Evil TESTOSTERONE, because that's what the doc gave him.
And as long as I'm angry at this doc, may God bless all the docs out there that take their work seriously in this area. There are a few pioneers that write books and are well know. God bless them. There are lots of docs that are open minded to learning and work WITH their patients in a partnership focused on health. God bless all of them.
I told my dad he might consider breaking up the shots into at least 2X a week, same total amount, and he listened to my reasoning and said he would prefer that. He said right now the biggest effect was bigger arm muscles..."from the workout I get just shoving that harpoon into my leg!" So we talked about how I do it, and he wants to try out subcutaneous injections.
Man, it really irks me when some doc and his ridiculous concepts have the chance to harm my family. It is unlike any other profession.
