Usernameabp
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Test e 500 mg a week
Deca D 300 mg a week
Nolvadex every day 10 mg
And clomid everyday 50 mg as my pct
12 week cycle
Deca D 300 mg a week
Nolvadex every day 10 mg
And clomid everyday 50 mg as my pct
12 week cycle
How is this as my first cycle?
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DexterMorgan
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Pretty bad
tex24
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Age? Lifting experience? Stats?
You are going to be told to run test only for your first cycle. A good idea, in order to assess how you respond to AAS in general. If you run deca as well and start getting sides, how will you know if it's from the test or deca?
Exactly what 308 said. Only thing I would add is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500iu per week while on cycle, with the last pin 3-4 days before PCT. You can up the adex to 0.5mg OED if you start getting symptoms. If you were to add a kick starter of 30mg a day of dbol for the first 4 weeks, you would probably live to tell about it, but test only is the norm.
Yeah, you definitely do not want to run deca on your first cycle, it shuts you down hard and it takes longer to recover from. Deca is usually stopped 2 weeks before test to give it more time to clear your system, and 10 weeks is not long enough for a good deca run. You also need Caber to control prolactin gyno, in addition to adex or another Aromatase inhibitor (AI). You're in way over your head on this and don't even seem to know what questions to ask, let alone how to understand the answers. Slow down and do more research.
Tell us how old you are and come back with a well thought out test cycle and we'll all be more than happy to help.
Tell us how old you are and come back with a well thought out test cycle and we'll all be more than happy to help.
I don't care about the size, I like it because I think it helps you recover faster once you start PCT. For a 12 week 24 pin test cycle, I'll get one 5000iu vial and I pin 250iu 2X per week, same day as test. I start on test pin 8 so that I end a few days before PCT. BUT, I have to admit, I have absolutly no proof that it really does make you recover faster or make any difference at all, besides cosmetic, just bro science, so yes, like you said, personal choice.
But we can all agree, no Deca on your first run!
But we can all agree, no Deca on your first run!
Usernameabp
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Whats the 50 50 50 50 clomid
Nolva 20 20 10 10 10 10 ??
And take these 2-3 weeks everyday after I last inject?
And no deca makes alot of sense thanks
Nolva 20 20 10 10 10 10 ??
And take these 2-3 weeks everyday after I last inject?
And no deca makes alot of sense thanks
Usernameabp
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Pin ??
Pin = injection
After your last test injection, wait 2+ weeks to start PCT. You have to let your test levels drop before you can restart your natural test production. The whole point of PCT is to get your natural production back as quickly as possible.
The dosages are given in mg per day every day for one week, written as week 1/week 2 and so on, so Clomid 50/50/50/50 means take 50mg of clomid per day, every day for 4 weeks. If it were 100 per day for two week and 50 for the next two weeks, that would be 100/100/50/50
OK, I'm putting my spoon away now.
After your last test injection, wait 2+ weeks to start PCT. You have to let your test levels drop before you can restart your natural test production. The whole point of PCT is to get your natural production back as quickly as possible.
The dosages are given in mg per day every day for one week, written as week 1/week 2 and so on, so Clomid 50/50/50/50 means take 50mg of clomid per day, every day for 4 weeks. If it were 100 per day for two week and 50 for the next two weeks, that would be 100/100/50/50
OK, I'm putting my spoon away now.
Usernameabp
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I appreciate it! Would u recommend a Dbol kickstart or am
I getting ahead of myself?
I getting ahead of myself?
Trenasaurus
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Test E or C at 500mg a week for first cycle. I don't understand why beginners want to stack all these compounds for their first cycle as if test isn't good enough alone. For a first cycle, your androgen receptors are virgins, and with proper diet, training, and rest, test alone will blow you the fuck up.
Trenasaurus
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Btw guys new to the forum. Have been lurking for years but my first time posting. Love all the info on this forum
OK, a lot of people here might disagree with me on this one, but think a dbol kicker is OK first time out. I would start at 20mg for the first few days to see how you respond or to give yourself a chance to get used to it, then bump to 30. Dbol clears your system fairly quickly, so if you do have any problems you can drop it. On gym days I take it all at once about an hour before the gym, or sometimes 1/2 of it an hour before and half as I'm leaving the house, depending on how long I plan to work out. On non-gym days, I break it up throughout the day, and usually take less, maybe 10 in the morning and 10 in the afternoon. Dbol and all orals are hard on your liver. You shouldn't take them for more than about 4 weeks, and you really should not drink while you're taking them, as in no alcohol at all for those 4 weeks. You may need to up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dosage a bit while taking it. But this is just my opinion. Let's see what other people have to say.
Hey Trenasaurus, what up?
Hey Trenasaurus, what up?
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Wait, did he ever tell us how old he is? I make it a rule never to give advice to anyone to young.
You might argue that that's a stupid rule because anyone can just go read your advice in another post, but given most of the questions in 'first cycle' posts, I think we can safely say that aint ever gunna happen.
You might argue that that's a stupid rule because anyone can just go read your advice in another post, but given most of the questions in 'first cycle' posts, I think we can safely say that aint ever gunna happen.
Damn dude. I'll try not to go off on you, but it's not about being young or immature or what ever, it's about causing permanent damage to their system. Until the glue has dried on their HPTA, shutting it down and fucking it up with steroids can cause irreparable damage that will fuck a brother up for life. No your nuts don't turn black and fall off and blood doesn't come out of your eyes, and you will feel fine, even after your cycle, but your natural test production can be permanently effected. Often times you won't have any idea until you do get a little older and things really slow down. It's like banging a chick with herpes and not waiting to put on a condom. It sounded like fun at the moment, but now you have to deal with it for the rest of your life, which can be a really long time. Guys need to slow down, relax and enjoy the ride. You will get there. Just wait until your body is ready. I promise you when you're 40 years old and on your way to the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) clinic, again, you will not be thinking damn! I'm so glad I put on 10 pounds of muscle when I was 20, if I had waited a couple more years, that would have been so lame!
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