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lol hold up a piece of paper that has the word goon written on it
How much of this weight will I keep?
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^^^^ lmao oh ya, this for sure.
20-25lbs lbm might be possible if you are skinny to start off with and eat huge, maybe more with a ridiculous and very unhealthy stack. 15-20lb lbm is still excellent. If you are already big 10lb is about max unless you do huge stacks.
Muscle density is roughly the same as water. 30lbs is 3.5 gallons of volume. 60lb is 7 gallons.
Muscle density is roughly the same as water. 30lbs is 3.5 gallons of volume. 60lb is 7 gallons.
recessionfever
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wow guys.. i am just speaking from experience. do what you want, but why take AAS if you are not playing a sport or competing? I was on for 2 years took four years off no post cycle therapy (pct) was completely fine, got back on and took it serious. Talk to people that compete, they will all tell you post cycle therapy (pct) is worthless cause it is. all of you are just repeated what others told you about post cycle therapy (pct), and how to cycle. learn from a professional about cycling and diet and you will get the body you want.
recessionfever
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Also bro, not all real bodybuilders cycle, not all real bodybuilders cycle the way we advise, and not all real bodybuilders never come off...being a REAL bodybuilder is determined by the countless hours of hard work, dieting your ass off, and putting everything you got on the fuckin table.
Nothing to do with how or if you use AAS...and having an opinion or shared belief on how to or if to cycle is not brainwash
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bro I never met a bodybuilder that did not use,, trust me no such thing as natural bodybuilding they all use.. and yes you are right its tons of hard work.. and DIET!! is everything.
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Mad- scientist
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No post cycle therapy (pct) and a 2 year cycle how were your test level when you got off and how long did it take to go back to normal?
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4rings2snails
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>>>> L M Mother F'ing B O <<<<
riprockwell
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Look if you want to cycle year round, that is YOUR choice. However, stating that you were on 2 years and took 4 years off with post cycle therapy (pct) and was completely fine does not mean that is the consensus here. Some guys want an edge in the gym and to build a good physique. Some guys will not recover. Consider yourself lucky. Doesn't mean they have to use supraphysiological levels of gear to get there. You act like everyone wants to be a pro bodybuilder and not everyone does or even could with the genetics they have. The key to cycling is one thing that has never come out of your mouth, and that is "Blood work." I doubt you have blood work and if you do, I am sure it was very infrequent. I would love to see your lipids after being on 2 years and my gut instinct tells me you take a lot of gear and higher dosages so I am sure your kidneys and liver are thanking you. Remember, sometimes the price of admission isn't worth the show. And this comes from personal experience and from someone who hasn't had to be on year round to achieve the results I want. If that is you in your avatar, you definitely compete and look good so good job. We are just in a different game and there is nothing wrong with that. And your original question is why take AAS if you are not playing a sport or competing?? I can think of plenty of reasons. Why use Cialis if you are not a porn star?? All I can say is that you can start a fire by rubbing 2 sticks together but why the fuck do that when the match was invented?? lol
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recessionfever
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i was fine.. sex drive libido. all were normal. got blood work done, because that is something you should do. its good for a piece of mind.
recessionfever
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that's crazy you mentioned blood work my last post i just mentioned it, and yes its very important. yes that is me in my avatar. i am not on here to make anyone mad or feel bad. i was given shit advice when i first started my cycling and I like to give back. if you are going to take AAS for personal reason maybe its to look better, just be stronger fine, but mine as well do it right. doing a 10-15 week cycle then taking 20 weeks off really is pointless. i blast mostly. but my so called time off is cruising at 600 mg test a week. when you come off go on its just yo-yo.. i done it and looking back wish i never did. would be a hell of a lot bigger by now, but lessened learned. just my experience no one has to listen.
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