How to LOWER testosterone levels (Yes, you read that right.)

[serber12345]

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So I have been natural for well over 9 months, with very lowish mid level test levels, and was really hoping I could get on TRT but realized this wouldn't be possible with a total T level of 470. Even though these levels aren't optimal or good by any means, they are also not low enough for any doc to give me the juice legally. I still however have many low T symptoms.

Anyways, I actually scheduled an apt. with an endo, and was wondering if somehow it would be possible to purposely lower my T naturally (without injecting myself with anabolics) below the "normal" range. If I could do this I would at least have a possible chance of getting legal juice prescribed and hopefully getting my levels in the optimal range and feeling good again.

Any suggestions?

 

[Megatron28]

Slam your balls in a door a few times. That would probably work.

Tricking a doctor into giving your TRT is no easy feat. It is highly unlikely to work. And most guys around here would kill to have TT of 470ng/dl.

How old are you?

 

[Roush]

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So I have been natural for well over 9 months, with very lowish mid level test levels, and was really hoping I could get on TRT but realized this wouldn't be possible with a total T level of 470. Even though these levels aren't optimal or good by any means, they are also not low enough for any doc to give me the juice legally. I still however have many low T symptoms.

Anyways, I actually scheduled an apt. with an endo, and was wondering if somehow it would be possible to purposely lower my T naturally (without injecting myself with anabolics) below the "normal" range. If I could do this I would at least have a possible chance of getting legal juice prescribed and hopefully getting my levels in the optimal range and feeling good again.

Any suggestions?

guys like you are whats going to eventually give TRT a bad name and make it highly regulated,, and thus more difficult for guys that really need trt to get treated.

if your over 35 years old then just pay the $ and hire an anti aging clinic to treat you and give you what you want .. if your under 35 then just run gear like everyone else that wants to run gear does, there are UGLs for a reason

 

[CobraMustangSVT]

Go on one of those starvation diets (i.e. a juice or lemonade cleanse for 10 days. For the last couple of days (depends on how well you can tolerate it) don't sleep, or sleep a couple of hours.

I had a friend who did that and he dropped from low 500's to low 200's. He lost a lot of weight and muscle in those 2 weeks so be warned.

 

[serber12345]

Lol at replies like this "most guys would KILL to have those levels".

You're an idiot for saying that period. If I have low T symptoms, it's NOT a good thing. Sure, it could be worse, but that's like saying since I'm lower income in America that I should just be satisfied and happy because there are starving children in Africa.

 

[serber12345]

Ahh yes, "just hop on gear reply" LMAO.

Yes, because drug dealers are such reliable people, I should be able to rely that my dealer will be around for decades on end for my well being.

Not to mention taking the risk AGAIN by keeping schedule 1 drugs in my possession. Genius idea.

 

[serber12345]

, there are UGLs for a reason

Also lol at this. Because again, it is so absolutely safe and guaranteed to order synthetic hormones off the internet. There are absolutely NO scams, no legal risk at all. You sound like a yolo kid? But sadly I really believe you're a grown man thinking all this is okay to recommend other people do.

 

[Roush]

Lol at replies like this "most guys would KILL to have those levels".

You're an idiot for saying that period. If I have low T symptoms, it's NOT a good thing. Sure, it could be worse, but that's like saying since I'm lower income in America that I should just be satisfied and happy because there are starving children in Africa.

if you have low T symptoms , and yet your blood work shows you don't have significantly low T ,, then maybe you got something else wrong with you . there are a host of diseases and conditions with very similar symptoms to that of low T

 

[Roush]

Also lol at this. Because again, it is so absolutely safe and guaranteed to order synthetic hormones off the internet. There are absolutely NO scams, no legal risk at all. You sound like a yolo kid? But sadly I really believe you're a grown man thinking all this is okay to recommend other people do.

do you know what web site and forum you happened to stumble upon and register to?

thats like walking into a bar and telling everyone there you disapprove of them drinking alcohol ,, well get the fuck out of the bar then douche bag

 

[Roush]

you come in here and your first posts are about how you can Scam your doctor and the insurance companies so you can get 'free' drugs , yet you want to talk shit about 'drug' use

 

[serber12345]

I'm not saying I disapprove of it, you were essentially calling me stupid for not just "hopping on the gear". I'm not judging any of you for it, I'm simply telling you why I won't go back on.

 

[serber12345]

Not so at all either, i'm not trying to scam anyone. as said 470 is far from optimal levels. Also no one is being scammed? I have insurance and money to pay for this? None of it would be free. It would just be prescribing something that would improve my quality of life 100%.

I am a fucking idiot guys

 

[halfwit]

Not so at all either, i'm not trying to scam anyone. as said 470 is far from optimal levels. Also no one is being scammed? I have insurance and money to pay for this? None of it would be free. It would just be prescribing something that would improve my quality of life 100%.

You're a fucking idiot

Name calling and trying to justify deceiving a medical professional won't earn you many points around here. You say you have money? Good, go pay an online vitality clinic for your clean USP grade pharmaceutical AAS.

Otherwise, I suggest you follow Megatron28's advice and start slamming away. Yes, I would have just killed to have your natural test levels, you insensitive twat.

 

[serber12345]

Your point? I'm confused exactly how you're situation makes my situation any less bad? Just because I could be worse off I should be happy?

I'm trying to be optimal. This has nothing to do with the fact that you're worse off.

 

[daleb]

Sounds to me like you have all the answers.

I'll put it to you bluntly...IF you feel suboptimal at 450 tt you will feel suboptimal at 800 or 1100 tt.

There is a process to this. Learn figure out why you feel like you do. Maybe you can fix it without wrecking your balls and HPTA.

 

[Milton]

Not so at all either, i'm not trying to scam anyone. as said 470 is far from optimal levels. Also no one is being scammed? I have insurance and money to pay for this? None of it would be free. It would just be prescribing something that would improve my quality of life 100%.

I am a fucking idiot guys

you sure sound like one to me. Respect our members and Mods. good luck.

 

[serber12345]

I find it funny how instead of actually coming on and coming up with a real response (as a grown man I assume too) you simply troll a thread that was meant to be a real discussion of a serious issue I have.

I come onto these forums to get real advice because of the symptoms I suffer from and one of two things always happens 1. I get trolled like this or 2. I get flamed because I should be "happy" my T isn't lower.

I can't fathom because as inconsiderate as some of you on here.

 

[serber12345]

And where did you come up with that? Really lol, I'm having a tough time following you're logic, so if I have low t symptoms, and raise my T, I'll still have low t symptoms because of .... What? (some unknown variable which replier has made unclear for the point he assumed I just would skim over mindlessly and be like "oh yeah he's probably right, raising my T wouldn't help!") without even asking why

 

[Megatron28]

Lol at replies like this "most guys would KILL to have those levels".

You're an idiot for saying that period. If I have low T symptoms, it's NOT a good thing. Sure, it could be worse, but that's like saying since I'm lower income in America that I should just be satisfied and happy because there are starving children in Africa.

Take a look at the chart. 470ng/dl really is close to average. I don't know your exact age of course.

And how is your diet? Did you get a good night's sleep before the blood work was drawn? What time was your blood work drawn at? Do you have sleep apnea? Are you Hypothyroid?

 

[Megatron28]

And where did you come up with that? Really lol, I'm having a tough time following you're logic, so if I have low t symptoms, and raise my T, I'll still have low t symptoms because of .... What? (some unknown variable which replier has made unclear for the point he assumed I just would skim over mindlessly and be like "oh yeah he's probably right, raising my T wouldn't help!") without even asking why

Other things can cause the same symptoms. For example, a headache may be caused by stress, a collision or a brain tumor. Each would be treated differently despite having the same symptom of a headache.