How's this stack/cycle sound

[bulldog28]

Hi all, today was my first prick on what will be an 8 week cycle. Here is my stack/schedule.
250 Suston eod
100 tren hex eod
80mg of oxan ed
Since reading the thread on here I’ll start using about 300iu - 500iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) e3d from the get go depending on how it performs on this stack,
I’ll also start using 20-30mg of Nolva ed and continue using Nolva for an extra 3-4 weeks after cycle ends tapering it down to 20 -10mg ed.
This will be my 13th cycle I believe, lost count. So I’m accustom to using a mid to high range dose. Is their anything else someone might suggest (please no novice that just started or anyone that just read something they never tried) that could enhance this stack?

Never regret the past….always look to the future.

 

[tekno]

Nice, should be looking right after that.

 

[bulldog28]

day one

Nice, should be looking right after that.

thanks bro, i'll post a picture after the cycle. i'm an ol'timer.....48, but most think i'm in my early 30's because of AAS perhaps.

forget the past, look to the future

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Sounds like you may not want to hear this coming from a newb but I feel as if i need to teach you one more trick.

It makes no sense to use a SERM (nolva) while on cycle. I assume you are running this to control estro?

Running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as Aromasin (that can easily be obtained in a matter of days from a research site) will bode much better.

You may know this, but a SERM will not lower the amount of estro in your system-just block it. Meanwhile the test is still aromatizing into estro contributing to a much higher amount of it than needed.

Anyways running aromasin @ 12.5 mg ed would stop some of that test from aromitizing. you should run this instead and save the nolva for your PCT.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

The serm should only be administered if you get gyno symptoms.

 

[Shaptown]

running nolva with tren is a very bad idea, it exacerbates prolactin induced gyno.

get yourself some aromasin to run to prevent aromatization, as well as some prami to run in case the tren causes some prolactin gyno...

 

[Biggin]

Cabergoline while on tren, atleast for me anyways.

 

[bulldog28]

Thanks for ur commits

Clinical trials comparing Aromasin vs. Tamoxifen. Common side effects for Aro vs. Tam include hot flashes 21.2% vs. 19.9% not a deal buster. Fatigue 16.1% vs. 14.7% also not a big deal. Joint pain 14.6% vs. 8.6% this makes a difference. Headaches 13.1% vs. 10.8 % ok, I couls keep more aspirin around to deal with that. Insomnia 12.4% vs. 8.6%….I like my sleep, this matters. And sweating is a minor 11.8% to 10.4% not much of a difference here. In fact you could lose more BF by using Aro.
I can obtain Tamoxifen at ant pharm I go to where I live, so I choose this component. Because of the ease in obtaining it and the effects it has proven in the past. When more data, I mean scientific data shows an adverse sign that Aromasin as an advantage over Tamoxifen I might start using it. For now, I stay with the compound that has less side effects and still gives me the results I’m use too.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

k im with you-just wondering who this experiment was done on? the only thing that scares me about nolva is the possible estro rebound when discontinuing. If it aint broke don't fix it

 

[bulldog28]

take a hike

k im with you-just wondering who this experiment was done on? the only thing that scares me about nolva is the possible estro rebound when discontinuing. If it aint broke don't fix it

Hey Newbie, do everyone a favor on here and keep your opinion to yourself. From the threads you post in giving advise on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), which you’ve never done to all the other post that seem to come from other mambers Threads I’m guessing you’ve never even done a cycle. So, don’t ever respond to my threads since you have no experience from what I’ve read…..only your opinion on other peoples threads. And you know what they say about opinions, there like assholes, everyone has one. And I don’t need to hear yours.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you can blow me you old fuck-I could give to fucks what you have to say. Your the dumbass running nolva on cycle when everyone knows thats about the stupidest thing to do. Yea I have only done one cycle-your right-But I know a hell of a lot more than you do. I was trying to help you, I have never got mad at anyone on this site but I wish like hell you were in front of me right now cause i would bounce your ass right off that hi horse your on. reply all you want-I wont post again on your threads-that your not really asking for advice on anyway. when you get prolactin gyno dont come cryin-just take it like the bitch you are.

 

[Shaptown]

bulldog-

leave this board immediately, you are not welcome here.


Tren is a 19-nor. You have no idea what that means do you? It causes PROLACTIN induced gyno.

You want to use tamoxifen? Go ahead....it exacerbates it.

Not a single experienced user on this board will tell you to use nolva with tren or deca.

But hey guess what? You have no problem insulting other members when they try to give you their input.

 

[Scarz]

Hey Newbie, do everyone a favor on here and keep your opinion to yourself. From the threads you post in giving advise on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), which you’ve never done to all the other post that seem to come from other mambers Threads I’m guessing you’ve never even done a cycle. So, don’t ever respond to my threads since you have no experience from what I’ve read…..only your opinion on other peoples threads. And you know what they say about opinions, there like assholes, everyone has one. And I don’t need to hear yours.

hey bro u totally misinterpreted newbie's post. no need for hostility. we all rock the same boat.

 

[Biggin]

Temper, Temper.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

sorry I know- I let my temp get the best of me-my apologies

 

[bulldog28]

My Apology to you Newbie

sorry I know- I let my temp get the best of me-my apologies

No, Newbie I apologize. I had a shit ass day yesterday. I woke up in the middle of the night ( I live in Europe) and took out my frustration on you. I’m deeply sorry to have anger you. After reading your post today I would also knock my ass off the horse I rode in on.
This will never happen ever again. Your commits will always be welcome as all should be. I’ll decide on the information and research what’s best.
Again, I apologize for upsetting a loyal advocate as you have shown.

 

[Ythrashin]

bulldog-

leave this board immediately, you are not welcome here.


Tren is a 19-nor. You have no idea what that means do you? It causes PROLACTIN induced gyno.

You want to use tamoxifen? Go ahead....it exacerbates it.

Not a single experienced user on this board will tell you to use nolva with tren or deca.

But hey guess what? You have no problem insulting other members when they try to give you their input.

Both Newbie and you are absolutely correct about running Nolva with with Tren or Deca.
Tren can cuase either progesterone or prolactin related gyno. Nolva increases the affinity of Tren attaching to the progesterone receptor.

Sometimes there is someconfusion about progesterone and prolactin....

A Dopamine Agonist such as cabaser,Bromocriptine or Pramipexole. Is the only thing that will help combat prolactin gyno.

The chance of progesterone gyno occurring is greatly reduces by administering a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as Adex or Aromasin to lower estrogen levels.

Progesterone gyno supposedly can not occur when there is little or no estrogen present.

Letro is the only only Aromatase inhibitor (AI) that effectively lowers estrogen and Progesterone levels.

Running Nolva is a big mistake , but go ahead bulldog....

 

[Ythrashin]

No, Newbie I apologize. I had a shit ass day yesterday. I woke up in the middle of the night ( I live in Europe) and took out my frustration on you. I’m deeply sorry to have anger you. After reading your post today I would also knock my ass off the horse I rode in on.
This will never happen ever again. Your commits will always be welcome as all should be. I’ll decide on the information and research what’s best.
Again, I apologize for upsetting a loyal advocate as you have shown.

Time for a group hug guys!

 

[bulldog28]

My Apology to you Newbie

bulldog-

leave this board immediately, you are not welcome here.


Tren is a 19-nor. You have no idea what that means do you? It causes PROLACTIN induced gyno.

You want to use tamoxifen? Go ahead....it exacerbates it.

Not a single experienced user on this board will tell you to use nolva with tren or deca.

But hey guess what? You have no problem insulting other members when they try to give you their input.

First, why are you getting involved in what Newbi and I are discussing.
Secondly, I don’t breastfeed my kids. So I use tamoxifen not to get bitch tits..
I’ve apologized to Newbi because I took out my frustration on him from sleep deprivation, I live in Europe and woke up in the middle of the night.
He’s someone I’ll befriend….I hope he'll accept!
You, on the other hand should keep your 13” arms at bay. You might know your shit because your studies (to some degree it seems) but do the stuff before your mouth starts yakking at those of us that stick the pin and work our asses off. Your commit was out of content and an insult to those of us that search for the latest informative info. Again I apologize to Newbi, but your insult is below the call. Hold your thoughts until they are needed.

 

[bulldog28]

Funny

Time for a group hug guys!

i agree. this forum is to discuss research and it's benifits. i should hug newbie for hie informative insight