Hpta time between restarts

[Alpin]

I am thinking this protocol as a restart:

Hcg eod 1500 ( total 7 shots x 1500)
Clomid eod 50mg (morning) for 45 days
Nolvadex ed 20mg ( night) for 45 days

1)What do you think about this, Should i make some changes?
2) I have not take anything for three weeks should i start now or wait ?
3) except acne, mood change , and maybe low libido inside protocol should i be afraid for something else?
4) Should i take some protection for my liver?
5) vitamins?

I know i have a lot of questions but i really need some help from you guys. I want this time to make it right. I believe that i can make my natural comeback even if i fail, it will worth trying.

Some stats for me.

Age 25
Height 1,87cm
Weight 81 kg
Bf 12%
4 times training per week with heavy weights
diet is perfect. ( i am personal trainer and i have take some seminars also in nutrition)

Thank you in advance.

Strong doses. You will increase intertesticular Estrogen with doses like that.
why not try 500 I.u 3 times a week and stay on that for a bit...?

 

[Megatron28]

I will take 7shots x 1500 hcg eod
20 mg nolva ed ( previous restart it controlled estrogen nice when i was taking hcg)
After i finish hcg i will continue nolva and also i will add clomid25mg ed. I will keep updating here.
I have two last questions.
Can i continue taking creatine ?
Should i be awared for other health issues ? Heart , liver , kidneys?
Thank you all for your time and answers.

I would not do this. I would follow what has been proposed in this thread.

 

[Alpin]

I will take 7shots x 1500 hcg eod
20 mg nolva ed ( previous restart it controlled estrogen nice when i was taking hcg)
After i finish hcg i will continue nolva and also i will add clomid25mg ed. I will keep updating here.
I have two last questions.
Can i continue taking creatine ?
Should i be awared for other health issues ? Heart , liver , kidneys?
Thank you all for your time and answers.

A successful restart is no 7 shots of this or that..
its confirmed thru blood tests what your TT is before hoping off of HCG. Do you have labs of HCG only treatment last time you were on ?
or super low dose adex 0.125 mg on days of HCG shot or day after. ..
prefer day of personally.

 

[George1989]

I dont have labs while i was on hcg. 500 iu x 3 per week and when i reach at least 500 ng TT levels i will start clomid and nolva

 

[Alpin]

I dont have labs while i was on hcg. 500 iu x 3 per week and when i reach at least 500 ng TT levels i will start clomid and nolva

You need adex on hand too....
I would get on that after a week. 0.25 mg EOD-E3D. ..
look for symptoms of headache, joint pain than see from labs what estro/test levels are like.

 

[Alpin]

Or 0.125 after second or third shot of HCG. Gently increasing dose if necessary. This is all individual. I don't know what rate you aromatize at.

 

[George1989]

Or 0.125 after second or third shot of HCG. Gently increasing dose if necessary. This is all individual. I don't know what rate you aromatize at.

I believe i dont aromatize a lot because in my previous try for restart i was taking 1500 hcg eod with only nolva and i didnt have mood face or water retention or headache.

 

[Alpin]

I believe i dont aromatize a lot because in my previous try for restart i was taking 1500 hcg eod with only nolva and i didnt have mood face or water retention or headache.

Bloodwork. ....bloodwork. ...bloodwork!

 

[George1989]

Update

After 1 month of Hcg 750iu x 3 per week
nolvadex 20mg ed
aromasin 12,5 eod

I made a blood test, results:

FSH 0,05 mU /ml 1.00-12.00 mU /ml
LH 0.08 mU /ml 2.00-12.00 mU /ml
E2 34 pg/ml 11 - 50 pg/ml
PRL 7,82 ng/ml 3,28 - 19,68 ng/ml
T 10,13ng/ml 2.60 - 12.00 ng/ml
SHBG 36,0 nmol/l 14 - 71 nmol/l

Why fsh and lh are so low, is it because i am taking hcg?
Do i have to take more hcg or stop and start nolva and / or clomid?

 

[bbbjames]

I am thinking this protocol as a restart:

Hcg eod 1500 ( total 7 shots x 1500)
Clomid eod 50mg (morning) for 45 days
Nolvadex ed 20mg ( night) for 45 days

1)What do you think about this, Should i make some changes?
2) I have not take anything for three weeks should i start now or wait ?
3) except acne, mood change , and maybe low libido inside protocol should i be afraid for something else?
4) Should i take some protection for my liver?
5) vitamins?

I know i have a lot of questions but i really need some help from you guys. I want this time to make it right. I believe that i can make my natural comeback even if i fail, it will worth trying.

Some stats for me.

Age 25
Height 1,87cm
Weight 81 kg
Bf 12%
4 times training per week with heavy weights
diet is perfect. ( i am personal trainer and i have take some seminars also in nutrition)

Thank you in advance.

Very high HCG doses. I would do a shot every 3.5 days (twice a week). After the HCG is done I would start the clomid and nolva for 4-6 weeks. 50mg of clomid daily and 20mg nolva the first two weeks and 10 mg week 3 and 4. This is very typical and works for most.

 

[George1989]

Very high HCG doses. I would do a shot every 3.5 days (twice a week). After the HCG is done I would start the clomid and nolva for 4-6 weeks. 50mg of clomid daily and 20mg nolva the first two weeks and 10 mg week 3 and 4. This is very typical and works for most.

What do you think about my last bloodwork?
,

 

[Therealkozmo]

So the power pct is too powerful