I feel okay should i forget about PCT

[jackt]

No matter what you do, never skip or mess with post cycle therapy (pct). You'll appreciate that you didn't down the road, trust me. but dont feel stupid for asking, now you know. I know guys who have juiced for years and dont even know what post cycle therapy (pct) is.. so ive seen worse. keep reading brotha

 

[GymWarrior07]

Pct

A lot of us have been there. I didnt even know what post cycle therapy (pct) was for my firs 5-6 cycles. Thats why the board and others like it are such a great resource nowadays. A wealth of knowledge so hopefully people dont make the same mistakes over and over.

Bump

 

[Trevdog]

Why would u do an 8 week cycle of a long ester? U feel good bc 75% of the gear u used hasn't kicked in...

That isn't even close to true. In fact, when you inject enanthate, the highest plasma concentration you will achieve from that injection will occur within less than one day.

 

[Shaptown]

wow trev where did you pull that graph out of?

 

[Liftbig11]

Less than one day in which week? Not the first I know that for a fact!

 

[spanish lion]

A-NO PCT=fuckin retarded, pointless

B-test e doesnt get stable blood levels until after week 4

C-after the 2nd week of last shot ur levels should have dropped to shit by now, if u feel fine now, wait soon enough u will feel HORRIBLE

D-Trev that graph is incorrect, the rate equation is logarithmic, its highest point would be the second it dissapates and then the test becomes active, but that is the highest level of that injection not total blood, the highest level is acheived after week 4, all depending on dosage and frequency.

now im not tryin to act like i know everything, im far from knowing about all the chemicals, but i know about rates! its a simple equation
ln(ai/af)=kt
ai= amount initial
af= amount final
t= time elapsed
k= rate constant (everything has a different constant)
ln= natural log

 

[Trevdog]

A-NO PCT=fuckin retarded, pointless

B-test e doesnt get stable blood levels until after week 4

C-after the 2nd week of last shot ur levels should have dropped to shit by now, if u feel fine now, wait soon enough u will feel HORRIBLE

D-Trev that graph is incorrect, the rate equation is logarithmic, its highest point would be the second it dissapates and then the test becomes active, but that is the highest level of that injection not total blood, the highest level is acheived after week 4, all depending on dosage and frequency.

now im not tryin to act like i know everything, im far from knowing about all the chemicals, but i know about rates! its a simple equation
ln(ai/af)=kt
ai= amount initial
af= amount final
t= time elapsed
k= rate constant (everything has a different constant)
ln= natural log

I don't know everything either, and I know that the whole scenario is more complicated than the graph implies. Having said that, and admitting that I'm not going to take the time to back my claims up with studies or other evidence...
I'm not quite sure exactly what you're saying. However, I do maintain that the highest levels of deestrified testosterone in the blood are achieved within a day after injecting testosterone enanthate, and it certainly doesn't take 4 weeks.

I think you're saying that if you use multiple injections of the same amount of estrified hormone, it can take a long time for blood levels of deestrified hormone to peak for the cycle, and I don't necessarily disagree, but as you imply there are a lot of variables to consider.

Oh, and the graph was posted by jboldman on another website. Nandi explained why graphs aren't necessarily accurate depictions of what really happens in the body, and his explanation made sense. However, sometimes it helps to (over)simplify things to try to understand them.

 

[Scarz]

Actually it isn't as horrifying as everyone is making it out to be. Taking post cycle therapy (pct) is not the bible written on stone. Even though post cycle therapy (pct) is highly recommended it is not an obligation. it will take longer to recover and the kept gains won't be 100% as compared to taking post cycle therapy (pct), but definetly not a loss in A LOT of gains. Back in the days, in Arnold's era (and prior to) post cycle therapy (pct) was never heard of or done. There was no nolva, clomid, aromasin, letro, adex, etc.

As far as the 8 weeks of test enth, that's not a waste and I wouldnt consider it a mistake. infact there r many vets recommending first timers to cycle 10 weeks as opposed to 12 weeks. 8 weeks is not the end of the world. A lot of gains can be made for a first timer doing a cycle in 8 weeks. In other words, the person would put on 20lbs as opposed to 25lbs. That's still pretty good. Most of the gains taper off towards the end anyway.

To asnwer the op's concern, no it's not absolutely mandatory that you take post cycle therapy (pct). but don't misconstrue that with the way you're currently feeling. You will still be feeling fine and dandy up to 10-12 days of your last injection because the half life of test enth is approximately that long. So if the test is still in your system, ofcourse you're okay. But come 2 weeks, you're going to be rocking a noodle between your legs for a long time without proper post cycle therapy (pct).