I need Test/Deca steroid Cycle Input Please!

[BulletWoods]

First cycle:
Test400 at 600mg - two pins per week (M&F) - 12 weeks

Second cycle:
Test Cyp at 800mg - two pins per week (M&F) - 14 weeks


About to start my third cycle and looking at adding Deca. Would be Test Cyp/Deca combined. Want to continue Test Cyp at 800mg per week. How much Deca should I run? How much can I safely run without running into the dreaded "Deca dick?" Anything else I need to go along with this cycle? I already have Clomid/Nolva combo for post cycle therapy (pct). I would love to run Test for 16 and Deca for 14 but I start running into some pretty bad back acne issues on weeks 12-14 of Test. Thanks for any input!


Third Cycle:
Test Cyp at 800mg - two pins per week (M&F) - 14 weeks
Deca at ???mg - two pins per week (M&F) - 12 weeks

 

[frank.tb]

Before anyone comments on dosage, your pinning days are off. Those esters should be pinned every 3.5 days.
Monday morning and Thursday evening is the typical way to go. Mon and Fri is not the proper way to pin.

 

[smittiot]

Maybe try 600T/400D? Also, need caber or prami in case of prolactin sides. Got to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as well (adex).
I like to pin Sunday AM and Weds PM for a better timing spread.

 

[BulletWoods]

Before anyone comments on dosage, your pinning days are off. Those esters should be pinned every 3.5 days.
Monday morning and Thursday evening is the typical way to go. Mon and Fri is not the proper way to pin.

Good info. Very tough for me to do at home as my fiance is not at all a fan of AAS and would be PISSED if she figured it out. I have to do it at the office, but can make it the last thing I do before leaving on Thursday so it is at liek 430 or 5 at least. Thanks!

 

[BulletWoods]

Maybe try 600T/400D? Also, need caber or prami in case of prolactin sides. Got to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as well (adex).
I like to pin Sunday AM and Weds PM for a better timing spread.

So lower my Test Cyp to 600? A few people have told me around 400mg Deca, but not to exceed 1/2 of what your Test dosage is. I have read a ton on it on this board, but everyone has their opinions....and a lot of them are different.

 

[frank.tb]

Good info. Very tough for me to do at home as my fiance is not at all a fan of AAS and would be PISSED if she figured it out. I have to do it at the office, but can make it the last thing I do before leaving on Thursday so it is at liek 430 or 5 at least. Thanks!

Well brother she's gonna figure it out sooner or later. And get some Prami for prolactin sides and Cialis for any erectile problems. Commonly called "deca dick"
Cialis has a number of positive effects including prostate health, vasodialation, aid in blood pressure reduction, and a hard on like an oak tree
And some other benefits.

Use the search bar brother and check out others cycle logs to see what to look out for.

 

[BulletWoods]

Well brother she's gonna figure it out sooner or later. And get some Prami for prolactin sides and Cialis for any erectile problems. Commonly called "deca dick"
Cialis has a number of positive effects including prostate health, vasodialation, aid in blood pressure reduction, and a hard on like an oak tree
And some other benefits.

Use the search bar brother and check out others cycle logs to see what to look out for.

I already have Liquid Cia from RUI, and planned on running Caber instead of Prami because I have heard Prami can make you sick. I am thinking she won't figure it out because this should be my last cycle as I am very close to my goal size and weight. Hopefully this cycle gets me to that desired point!

 

[Metalhead]

First time I ran deca I did test at 600 and deca at 400. I had great strength gains, joints felt great for that entire time, and a lot of weight gain. Everyones different though and can tolerate different doses than others. Youll just have to experiment.

Agreed with above. Get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), caber or prami, and cialis would be a great addition also

 

[underpsi]

same here. deca 400 and test (sust) at 600. didn't gain like tren but better results than test only for sure. no caber, no deca dick ect.
next cycle going to run deca again. gona do prop tho so i can play with my dosages a little .

 

[prisonsex]

I'm assuming you weigh less than 250lbs if so, you should get decent gains with the deca at 400. Test at 600; if your a young buck and your body fat is fairly low you'll be fine cranking up the test to 800mg.

If you weigh more than 250 lbs speak up. My experience with deca and NPP body weight dictates dose.

The caber needs to be at least .25mg every 3.5 days. I run caber at .5mg 2X a week....fuck it.

Like the others said, Cealius is your friend.

Also, plan on running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Even if you haven't had issues in the past with test only cycles; I would highly recommend an AI.

 

[BulletWoods]

First time I ran deca I did test at 600 and deca at 400. I had great strength gains, joints felt great for that entire time, and a lot of weight gain. Everyones different though and can tolerate different doses than others. Youll just have to experiment.

Agreed with above. Get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), caber or prami, and cialis would be a great addition also

I have the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Cialis, and have used both before. Ordering Caber. Thanks, brother!

same here. deca 400 and test (sust) at 600. didn't gain like tren but better results than test only for sure. no caber, no deca dick ect.
next cycle going to run deca again. gona do prop tho so i can play with my dosages a little .

I'm assuming you weigh less than 250lbs if so, you should get decent gains with the deca at 400. Test at 600; if your a young buck and your body fat is fairly low you'll be fine cranking up the test to 800mg.

If you weigh more than 250 lbs speak up. My experience with deca and NPP body weight dictates dose.

The caber needs to be at least .25mg every 3.5 days. I run caber at .5mg 2X a week....fuck it.

Like the others said, Cealius is your friend.

Also, plan on running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Even if you haven't had issues in the past with test only cycles; I would highly recommend an AI.

I don't know what you consider a young buck, but I am 35 years old, and 6'2" 195 lbs with 8.4% body fat.

 

[BulletWoods]

Can you mix test and deca into the same pin or is there a reason they should be separate? I am fine with needles, but would like to stick myself as little as possible, obviously. Also, do you just take the Caber at the same time you pin? Seems the easiest way to always remember it. As for Adex....assuming .5mg EOD or ED? Thanks a ton for all the input, guys. Much appreciated!

 

[Metalhead]

Can you mix test and deca into the same pin or is there a reason they should be separate? I am fine with needles, but would like to stick myself as little as possible, obviously. Also, do you just take the Caber at the same time you pin? Seems the easiest way to always remember it. As for Adex....assuming .5mg EOD or ED? Thanks a ton for all the input, guys. Much appreciated!

Yes mix them. You can do that with the caber if you decide to take it. Yes adex eod. Have you used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before and monitored your e2? Just be sure to keep that in range to avoid prolactin problems

 

[BulletWoods]

Yes mix them. You can do that with the caber if you decide to take it. Yes adex eod. Have you used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before and monitored your e2? Just be sure to keep that in range to avoid prolactin problems

I have used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before but never had any E2 problems whatsoever. Never monitored it, but never noticed any issues.....until post cycle therapy (pct). First two cycles, never used an AI....no issues. I plan to use it during this cycle. I am definitely planning on using Caber and Cialis. No way I am letting "deca dick" happen when I am newly engaged to my smoke show of a fiance!

 

[BulletWoods]

Also,
I have read that Caber is hard to find....should I just get liquid Prami from RUI? I get my Clomid/Nolva/Adex/pins from them already. Just heard Prami can make you feel pretty sick, but that Caber is tough to find in pill form and not stable in liquid form. Any insight there?

 

[Metalhead]

Yeah just go with prami and take it before bed to avoid sides as much as possible. Who knows, you may not have any

 

[smittiot]

Prami does not (that I notice)make me feel sick, but it does mess with my sleep pattern. I fall to sleep fine, but wake up an hour or two later and then have a hard time getting back at it for a few hours.

 

[BulletWoods]

Prami does not (that I notice)make me feel sick, but it does mess with my sleep pattern. I fall to sleep fine, but wake up an hour or two later and then have a hard time getting back at it for a few hours.

Thanks for the warning. I will try taking it when I pin to start, see how I feel, and go from there. I have moderate sleep apnea as it is, so jacking up my already jacked up sleep would be no bueno!

 

[smittiot]

Really have not needed the prami yet on my cycle. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for sure. In week 7 now.

 

[BulletWoods]

Really have not needed the prami yet on my cycle. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for sure. In week 7 now.

Nice! How are your results?