Input Needed to Finalize Helladrol Cycle

[_ANTON_]

Going on my first Helladrol cycle.

I went with the helladrol starter stack.

From what I've read here it would be wise of me to run hc generate during cycle and possibly an estrogen blocker as well.

Forged Post Cycle says it has both test boosters and estrogen blockers so that should work for my pct phase correct?

Any changes need to be made to the following assuming I'm not going traditional serm route?

CYCLE
1-6 Helladrol - 75/75/75/100/100/100
1-6 Forged Liver Support - 1 capsule 2 times a day morning and night.

PCT
7-10 Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
7-10 Forma Stanzol - 5 pumps rubbed on chest 2 times a day morning and night.

Perhaps I'm missing test base in my cycle phase.

Would you suggest using one of the hc generates + N2 Guard during cycle to make this more complete?

Looking for high reward and low sides of course. Please advise asap.

My starter stack comes in 2 days and I want to get the rest ordered.

Thanks

 

[gymrat827]

unfortunately, the starter stack is inadequate to complete a full cycle... here is the best way to run this cycle... liver care does nothing to address bp and lipids... you need n2guard for complete protection... HcGenerate ES is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains***8230; It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate es
3-10 forma stanzol

pct 7-10

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.comU
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators


USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF***8230;


If you really want to enhance the cycle, add gw-501516 to it from SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... 20 mg a day...

Follow this. I was going to write out a full reply but it would be 95% the same as this so I can save my fingers typing.

Adding the Sarms in really changes the game, I use to thinki little of a straight oral cycle but with one of two sarm"s tossed in it allows for 10/12 wk inj cycle type gains.

I'd be using LGD in the start and osta in pct. GW would really help out with endurance and fatloss.

 

[_ANTON_]

unfortunately, the starter stack is inadequate to complete a full cycle... here is the best way to run this cycle... liver care does nothing to address bp and lipids... you need n2guard for complete protection... HcGenerate ES is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains***8230; It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle...

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate es
3-10 forma stanzol

pct 7-10

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators


USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF***8230;


If you really want to enhance the cycle, add gw-501516 to it from SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... 20 mg a day...

Excellent. Appreciate the advice.

So basically my forged post cycle is out of the equation now?

Also, hcgenerate es is it off stock. Would using hc generate original for both our and post cycle be sufficient?

 

[gymrat827]

Normal hcgenerate + the forged post cycle you already have will work

 

[_ANTON_]

Made adjustments per suggestions and barely tweaked servings to keep from buying 3 bottles when just over 2 are required (waste of doe).

Please let me know if you approve.

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 Forged Liver Support - 1 capsule 2 times a day morning and night.
1-6 n2guard - 6 capsules per day
1-6 hcgenerate - 4 capsules per day
1-6 Forma Stanzol - 8.5 pumps per day (4 in the morning, 4.5 at night)

pct 7-10

LiquiClom (Chlomid) - 50/50/25/25
Phytoserms 347 - As Directed
Hcgenerate - 5 capsules per day
Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
N2guard - 6 capsules per day
Forma Stanzol - 8.5 pumps per day (4 in the morning, 4.5 at night)
MK-2866 (Ostarine) - 25 mg/day

But isn't this doubling up on test in the post cycle if I run Forged and Hcgenerate together?

I want to make sure my serving sizes are correct. Example - N2 Guard says 7 caps/day and 30 days worth per bottle. I really need to buy 3 bottles of N2 Guard? If I took 6 caps/day it would put me at 10 weeks exactly (see above)

Same with HC Generate - 5 caps per serving X 30 servings per bottle. Im assuming one serving per day because it doesn't say. So thats 8 weeks. Taking 5 per day. If I took 4 per day on cycle & 5 per day for pct, it = two bottles almost exactly.

Same with Forma Stanzol. Using 8.5 pumps a day instead of 10 puts you at exactly 10 weeks .... the list goes on (see above)

Looking for approval here.

 

[_ANTON_]

bump.

wanting to pull the trigger on the rest.

so far i have ordered/received

helladrol
forma stan
forged liver support
forged post cycle
liquiclom
hc generate x 2 thanks to dylans deal

still need n2guard, phytoserms, and ostarine

would like confirmation on the above post before i buy the rest.

 

[nickb86]

bump.

wanting to pull the trigger on the rest.

so far i have ordered/received

helladrol
forma stan
forged liver support
forged post cycle
liquiclom
hc generate x 2 thanks to dylans deal

still need n2guard, phytoserms, and ostarine

would like confirmation on the above post before i buy the rest.

Looks a solid cycle bro I like the ostarine in pct it will really solidify gains and keep strength up, if you do run ostarine there's only 1 place imo and that's sarms1.com amazingly effective and very well priced too.

You don't need both n2guard and forged liver, n2guard alone is enough bro.

Phytoserms 347 is awesome addition to pct and one of my fav supps, if you want a deal on it drop me a pm as I have some nice codes for big savings

hcgenerate is great in pct and stacks well with forged post cycle, hcgenerate will raise total test substantially and the forged pc will lower shbg enabling what test you have to be more freely used.

all in all looks solid bro hope you enjoy it.

 

[_ANTON_]

Looks a solid cycle bro I like the ostarine in pct it will really solidify gains and keep strength up, if you do run ostarine there's only 1 place imo and that's sarms1.com amazingly effective and very well priced too.

You don't need both n2guard and forged liver, n2guard alone is enough bro.

Phytoserms 347 is awesome addition to pct and one of my fav supps, if you want a deal on it drop me a pm as I have some nice codes for big savings

hcgenerate is great in pct and stacks well with forged post cycle, hcgenerate will raise total test substantially and the forged pc will lower shbg enabling what test you have to be more freely used.

all in all looks solid bro hope you enjoy it.

Thanks for the review/codes/advice bro.

Appreciate the help.

Any deals out there on N2guard & ostarine?

 

[gymrat827]

You can get away with a lil less n2gaurd than what's advised. 5 caps is enough. As for as HCGen + forged post cycle, why not run them both?

Natty T boosters don't have any sides and adding one to another will just helpout that much more. I know the ntbm discount code is dylan10 but I did see a 15% sale thread somewhere, pretty sure it was a one or two day thing but pm Dylan to double check.

Sarms1 is about half of sarm search so shopping there will save you a bit of coin too

 

[_ANTON_]

You can get away with a lil less n2gaurd than what's advised. 5 caps is enough. As for as HCGen + forged post cycle, why not run them both?

Natty T boosters don't have any sides and adding one to another will just helpout that much more. I know the ntbm discount code is dylan10 but I did see a 15% sale thread somewhere, pretty sure it was a one or two day thing but pm Dylan to double check.

Sarms1 is about half of sarm search so shopping there will save you a bit of coin too

Dang. Just bought both before you posted this ....

Only think I have left to buy is phytoserms 347 and the codes for that one are good but they are codes for buying multiple bottles.

I only need 1 and the bottles are spendy.

 

[_ANTON_]

Will 1 bottle of forma stanzol last all 10 weeks?

I've got twenty two 4mg androderm packs. Would that be an emigrant if I ran out of forma stanzol?

 

[_ANTON_]

everything is ordered. should get n2 guard and hc generate tomorrow and be able to start my cycle. remaining supps for pct should come in 1 day later.

im curious. does anyone have stats as far as blood test before, during, and after pro-hormone cycle for testosterone?

just curious what to expect once pct is over with.

did most of you have test return to pre-cycle levels?

better than pre cycle?

worse?

time for recovery?

 

[_ANTON_]

Just got my Liqui Clom (L-Clo) in the mail.

I know the dosing but there are no directions on how to take it.

It says "not for human consumption" right on it so I am assuming topical?

Also, there are little chunks floating around in the bottle. This normal?

In addition, my forma stanzol bottle started off only filled to the right edge of the oval on the label. Is this normal?
Judging by how much I have used so far (at about 8 pumps per day), this thing wont even last 8 weeks and I need 10 weeks worth.

Did I get a shorted bottle?

 

[Andreas Munzer]

would love to see a log for this if you can so we can all follow and support you along the way

 

[_ANTON_]

Thanks for the info. And definitely. Just started my 4th week. Already up 12 lbs. Ill post more detailed info and pics soon

 

[Andreas Munzer]

awesome news!!!

 

[_ANTON_]

Should clomid dosing be spread through the day or taken all at once? Morning or night?

What about phytoserm 347. Two caps in morning or 1 in morning and one at night?

 

[Andreas Munzer]

Should clomid dosing be spread through the day or taken all at once? Morning or night?

What about phytoserm 347. Two caps in morning or 1 in morning and one at night?

dosing once a day is good no real need to dosing it throughout the day.

 

[_ANTON_]

Hey,

Finished the Helladrol cycle and now I am coming up on 2 weeks in my PCT.

Here is how I ran the cycle and how I am running PCT:

1-6 helladrol 75/75/75/100/100/125
1-6 n2guard - 6 capsules per day
1-6 hcgenerate - 4 capsules per day
1-6 Forma Stanzol - 8.5 pumps per day (4 in the morning, 4.5 at night)

pct 7-10

LiquiClom (Chlomid) - 50/50/25/25
Phytoserms 347 - As Directed
Hcgenerate - 5 capsules per day
Forged Post Cycle - 2 capsules 2 times a day morning and night.
N2guard - 6 capsules per day
Forma Stanzol - 10 pumps per day (5 in the morning, 5 at night)



I am now getting small itchy bumps on my chest, arms, back of hands, and thighs. It's not severe but it is noticable for sure.

What could this be from?

The only supplements that I am taking now that I didn't take during the cycle are:

Liquiclom
Forged Post Cycle
Phytoserms

I was thinking it might be the forma since it was on my chest and arms first, but I took that through the cycle (nothing happened then) and it is now on my legs as well.

Please advise.

I'm thinking I should switch to 25mg of liquiclom now and possibly only take two forged post cycles per day instead of 4 a day?

Anyone had similar symptoms and have suggestions on what to reduce, or stop?

Please help.

Thanks guys.


By the way. Went from 180lbs to 199 lbs by the end of week 6. I'm two weeks into pct and I still have 188lbs. Hopefully I can hold this weight.

 

[mich29]

addressed this in your other thread