Is Acne caused from Testosterone or Estrogen?

[ImAuNatural]

This isn't for me but for a buddy. He is on cycle and he has already ran two cycles previously with no bloodwork no PCT and no AI or SERMS.
I have told him all about it and basically begged him to do these things but he wont listen.

He has alot of Acne mostly on his back and when I say alot I mean ALOT! Not just 20 little bumps but a ton! They are not nasty looking like white they're just little red pimples or whatever.

But he tans alot to keep the acne down which im sure it helps a ton but i told him that I believe he has so much acne because his estrogen is so high. But he told me it was because of the testosterone not his estrogen. Which one is the primary cause for acne while on cycle?

I thought that estrogen was since when women start their monthly they breakout sometimes and sometimes when they get pregnant they do as well.

I have always been pretty prone to getting some acne and I still get a spot here and there every now and again but since I have been on my cycle I have not noticed a huge increase in acne like my friend has.

Im just curious as to which one is more of a cause of acne I know they both play a role but i didn't know if one was more dominant than the other,thanks.

 

[MarioKart64]

i read somewhere it's caused by spikes in the both estrogen and test levels. like for example if you come off of prop your test levels are gonna plummet and you will get acne. or if for some reason you get a huge estrogen spike..

just something i read a while back but i have no source or scientific proof

 

[3J]

if i recall correctly its more because of estrogen

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Mario's correct - flunctuations in both can cause acne.

Increasing in test cause increases in estrogen, its not a one or the other type of deal.
Anecdotal from guys using ai's to keep estrogen low & prevent acne showed that it simply doesn't work.

If you put your body into an anabolic environment by increasing the relevant hormones (test, insulin, estrogen, etc) and your genetically prone to acne - then I'm afraid you will get acne with the higher doses associated with worse bouts.

As a side note - if you plan on cycling regularly then tanning as an acne cure is a bad idea.
Your body will ventually adapt and the acne will get worse as the tan wears off - this happened to me & a few others so...something to be aware of.

 

[ImAuNatural]

Mario's correct - flunctuations in both can cause acne.

Increasing in test cause increases in estrogen, its not a one or the other type of deal.
Anecdotal from guys using ai's to keep estrogen low & prevent acne showed that it simply doesn't work.

If you put your body into an anabolic environment by increasing the relevant hormones (test, insulin, estrogen, etc) and your genetically prone to acne - then I'm afraid you will get acne with the higher doses associated with worse bouts.

As a side note - if you plan on cycling regularly then tanning as an acne cure is a bad idea.
Your body will ventually adapt and the acne will get worse as the tan wears off - this happened to me & a few others so...something to be aware of.

Thanks for the response. I knew both hormones would cause acne to a degree. I am basically just trying to help my friend out because he si young and he wont take an AI he wont get Bloodwork he wont even goto Walmart and check his blood pressure for free.

I was just curious as to why I don't have a ton of acne because I have always been prone to it,I thought maybe my estrogen is real low from the Adex and Nolva and maybe that was why I didnt have acne, but I am waiting n bloods to come back to confirm whether my e2 is high or low.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Thanks for the response. I knew both hormones would cause acne to a degree. I am basically just trying to help my friend out because he si young and he wont take an AI he wont get Bloodwork he wont even goto Walmart and check his blood pressure for free.

I was just curious as to why I don't have a ton of acne because I have always been prone to it,I thought maybe my estrogen is real low from the Adex and Nolva and maybe that was why I didnt have acne, but I am waiting n bloods to come back to confirm whether my e2 is high or low.

Its very difficult to say why person A is fine while person B has severe acne but, again, genetics will be the major player. Differences in your cycles, activity level, hygiene, diet, etc all possible explanations.
The androgenic activity of the compoubd plays a bigger role than the estrogenic part, insulin also plays a part, diet possibly plays a role - its a large picture that doesnt allow us to simply say its test or estro.

If your e2 has crashed then that would probably lead to less acne synptoms but it would be pretty obvious if your e2 was rock bottom - you would feel like shit

 

[ImAuNatural]

Its very difficult to say why person A is fine while person B has severe acne but, again, genetics will be the major player. Differences in your cycles, activity level, hygiene, diet, etc all possible explanations.
The androgenic activity of the compoubd plays a bigger role than the estrogenic part, insulin also plays a part, diet possibly plays a role - its a large picture that doesnt allow us to simply say its test or estro.

If your e2 has crashed then that would probably lead to less acne synptoms but it would be pretty obvious if your e2 was rock bottom - you would feel like shit

Thanks for the input man I appreciate it! I agree with you completely. I dont think my estrogen has crashed because form what I have read its horrifying ,but before my cycle my e2 was only at 9.4.which is pretty low.

I am on 500mg test a week. I have been runing my Adex @.5mg EOD and Nolva @20mg ED. So its possible that my estrogen is low but not completely crashed. Bloodwork was taken this morning and Mega told me it will probably be a week before I get my results because I did the TT test. Ill post them up once I receive them.

 

[ADenver]

Its my understanding high e2 and really low e2 symptoms are almost identical. ED, loss of libido, etc....

 

[ImAuNatural]

Its my understanding high e2 and really low e2 symptoms are almost identical. ED, loss of libido, etc....

Yeah thats what I have read as wlel thats why im not sure which one it is lol. I do know that when i took a pro hormone before when i was ignorant i didnt take any AI or SERM or PCT and i was bloated like hell and I was very lazy and sleepy all the time and I had no sex drive but I did gain 30lbs in 4 weeks and then lost it all if not more afterwards!