Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) enough to maintain fertility on TRT

[Cosmoen]

Is HCG enough to maintain fertility on TRT

If the patient is 100% fertile prior to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and he starts his testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) treatment with HCG, is there any guarantee that his fertility will bot be affected?

I know Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a replacement for LH in spermatogenis, but it doesn't do anything for FSH. How does this affect fertility?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Well testosterone and FSH both stimulate spermatogenesis. So it is not a direct action but def helps fertility.

If that were not enough you could add HMG to the protocol which mimics FSH, this would really increase chances of fertility.

Testosterone is not going to make people sterile like everyone says, that is a rumor.

As a matter of fact check out this study, they gave men with idiopathic hypogonadism testosterone, and it actually reversed there low testosterone once discontinuing.

Ten sustained reversals were identified retrospectively. Five sustained reversals were identified prospectively among 50 men with idiopathic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism after a mean (±SD) duration of treatment interruption of 6±3 weeks. Of the 15 men who had a sustained reversal, 4 had anosmia. At initial evaluation, 6 men had absent puberty, 9 had partial puberty, and all had abnormal secretion of GnRH-induced luteinizing hormone. All 15 men had received previous hormonal therapy to induce virilization, fertility, or both. Among those whose hypogonadism was reversed, the mean serum level of endogenous testosterone increased from 55±29 ng per deciliter (1.9±1.0 nmol per liter) to 386±91 ng per deciliter (13.4±3.2 nmol per liter, P<0.001), the luteinizing hormone level increased from 2.7±2.0 to 8.5±4.6 IU per liter (P<0.001), the level of follicle-stimulating hormone increased from 2.5±1.7 to 9.5±12.2 IU per liter (P<0.01), and testicular volume increased from 8±5 to 16±7 ml (P<0.001). Pulsatile luteinizing hormone secretion and spermatogenesis were documented.

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So basically what I am saying is anyone who purports that testosterone therapy will shut you down for good, does not know the literature and you should not take there advice, the chances of becoming infertile from testosterone are very slim to none.

 

[maxxmill17]

44 years old ..on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) 10 yrs ...180 mgs enenahate per week(80mgs sun;80mgs thurs )...high E small balls.....got g-friend preg. in july....

 

[NativeTX]

The Det Oak, you say that testoserone cannot make someone sterile. I was on 600mg of test and 600mg of Deca a week. My Test, 4 months after my last shot was 104. I had 2 doctors and someone very knowledgeable on line tell me that it did make me sterile.

 

[1693]

The Det Oak, you say that testoserone cannot make someone sterile. I was on 600mg of test and 600mg of Deca a week. My Test, 4 months after my last shot was 104. I had 2 doctors and someone very knowledgeable on line tell me that it did make me sterile.

Did you just have a sperm test? Because I wouldn't just trust those three opinions unless they're up for paying child support.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

The Det Oak, you say that testoserone cannot make someone sterile. I was on 600mg of test and 600mg of Deca a week. My Test, 4 months after my last shot was 104. I had 2 doctors and someone very knowledgeable on line tell me that it did make me sterile.

I never said testosterone can not make you sterile. I am just saying the chances are not very good. For instance look at this study on Asian men. There were roughly 1100 men on T for like 3 years. All but 2 regained fertility. I bet these guys had an underlying issue.

There was no evidence of major side effects, and all but two of the men in the study returned to normal fertility after stopping the injections. The average time it took for the men to return to normal fertility was around six and a half months.

http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/news/20090506/testosterone-tested-as-male-contraceptive?page=2

Now I was not talking about deca, that has a much more negative effect on the HPTA. It most likely made you sterile temporarily, but I highly doubt its permanent if it is just from AAS use. The only Dr who ever produced peer reviewed clinical research on men with ASIH (anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism) said that almost all of his patients, thousands, regained function. Some of which abused for years.

So whoever told you that is a moron and is probably one of the steroid witch hunters.

Unless genetics or a traumatic incident is making you sterile, I bet money you can recover with the right program.

Check out this article.

HPTA Restart DEMO

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well not the only thing I guess, I have seen Propecia mess people up permanently.

 

[Daniel_IMT_Staff]

HCG offers many benefits and will helps increase fertility, as hCG is pertaining to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) it offers many other benefits to help your body functioning as if you aren't receiving exogenous testosterone.

If it a person is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and has found their sperm count to be low, a fertility doc will most likely prescribe hCG alongside hMG as The-Det-Oak correctly states. Not having children is not something that is "caused" by testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if the protocol is right and you have knowledgeable docs dealing with these issues.

Many times it will depend on if you have been diagnosed as having hypergonadotropic hypogonadism(primary) or hypogonadotropic hypogonadism(secondary) combination of the two or idiopathic. There are so many variables and that goes back to your initial blood work and assessment of the labs.

The-Det-Oak is correct the success rate of restart programs is very high. Assumed you are getting the right treatment!