Is this even possible??...PLEASE, i need your help!

[s.d]

First of all, hi to all.

So here is the story, about 10 months ago i did a dbol+proviron only cycle (i know, i was stupid, didn't do my research, and listened to various idiots, so may this be a lesson to all!). So i was running about 40mg ed for about 3-4 weeks, and then stopped because i just couldn't bear the sides. Anyhow, ever since, my balls have atrophied to half their previous size, they are also squishy, my test seems low, i tend to go limp during sex, and i have practically forgotten what it feels like to have morning wood (unless i take cialis). A while ago i asked for help here, and i was told to try Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and clomid, i did for around 4 weeks and everything seemed perfect, balls came back, i had sex drive, rock hard boners like before and even morning wood. Unfortunately, when i stopped this therapy, everything went bad again.

If anyone has similar experience, or maybe a solution to my problems, i would greatly appreciate your help and owe you big time. I'm only 22 and this situation is just killing me. I simply cant understand that 3 weeks of dbol could have destroyed me this much, especially when i see what kind of stuff and dosages other guys run.

p.s. Recently speaking to an older guy who seems to know everything on gear, he told me to try a test cycle, even though i dont see how this would help, wont it even just make the situation worse?

Thanks in advance.

 

[fame2002]

Only thing anyone will tell you is go have blood work done. It's a shot in the dark until we know your numbers.

 

[s.d]

Only thing anyone will tell you is go have blood work done. It's a shot in the dark until we know your numbers.

oh, sorry, forgot to post that, here are my last results

test: 4.58 2.49-8.36
estrogen: 8.87 7.63-42.6
LH: 5.83 1.7-8.6
FSH: 1.97 1.5-12.4

 

[s.d]

Anyone?...any suggestions??

 

[Fisher28]

THat sounds tough man! So you didnt have a pct?

 

[losieloos]

Your estrogen really low, have you talked to a doc yet?

 

[s.d]

THat sounds tough man! So you didnt have a pct?

No, actually i did, it wasn't a proper one with clomid and hcg, but i did run 4 weeks of nolva immediately after the dbol...then after a few months when i saw that i'm still screwed, i then attempted 4 weeks of clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) which fixed everything, but only for the time that i was taking it

 

[s.d]

Your estrogen really low, have you talked to a doc yet?

No, not yet...i'm considering that a kind of last resort, I thought maybe i could fix it myself, but it seems less likely by now

 

[s.d]

bump...

 

[DADAWG]

No, actually i did, it wasn't a proper one with clomid and hcg, but i did run 4 weeks of nolva immediately after the dbol...then after a few months when i saw that i'm still screwed, i then attempted 4 weeks of clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) which fixed everything, but only for the time that i was taking it

never run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) , Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use should stop before taking clomid. imo run clomid for a month at 50 mg a day and see what happens , its cheap and easily available which makes it worth a shot.

 

[Husker1]

Im guessing the guy u talked 2 about this and suggested the
Test cycle was meaning it as a HRT type thing to bring your
Test levels back to "normal" .

As DAWG stated i would do the same with Clomid, however there is
NO avergae when it comes 2 Test levels and age bc every1 is diff
They are gonna say average is 400-800 for male 18-25 howrver there
R guys lower and higher so what does that answer, nothn in
My opinion!!

Run the Clomid like DAWG said and mayb hit up the DR for HRT.
Depending apon the Dr he may hook ya up due 2 ur age.

Good luck and keep us posted

 

[s.d]

never run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) , Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use should stop before taking clomid. imo run clomid for a month at 50 mg a day and see what happens , its cheap and easily available which makes it worth a shot.

Ok, thxs a lot...would you maybe suggest a blast of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ed for a week before the clomid? since i didn't do it right the last time and ran both together...

 

[DADAWG]

Ok, thxs a lot...would you maybe suggest a blast of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ed for a week before the clomid? since i didn't do it right the last time and ran both together...

just do the clomid for now.

 

[Matt0071]

u see it all the time bro, your not the first one and def wont be the last one doing the famous dbol only cycle, noobs or people that are affraid of needle's do that kinda shit, but in return u say u dont know how only 3 weeks of a dbol only cycle can do that, it will shut u down bro most defently, without proper post cycle therapy (pct) u may never get your natty test levels back, the risk u take doing any sort of aas, it's a life long commitement, exspecially being young and thinking of having children in the future, "could" destroy the possibilities of having children and worse case not producing your own natural test again!
it's why u see people doing a dbol only cycly blowing up ( water weight), then after they drop dbol, they shrivel down to there same size they started if not even worse then they started cause they have no sort of test in there system to keep there gains

 

[rage racing]

oh, sorry, forgot to post that, here are my last results

test: 4.58 2.49-8.36
estrogen: 8.87 7.63-42.6
LH: 5.83 1.7-8.6
FSH: 1.97 1.5-12.4

When was the bloods done in relation to you running the clomid/hcg? Those results show me you are not shut down. As far as your estrogen level, dont sweat it. some people just dont have much estrogen (myself included). My estrogen was at 8 before ever touching AAS.

 

[s.d]

When was the bloods done in relation to you running the clomid/hcg? Those results show me you are not shut down. As far as your estrogen level, dont sweat it. some people just dont have much estrogen (myself included). My estrogen was at 8 before ever touching AAS.

The test was done around 2 months after the clomid and hcg, and i know the test levels are not critically low, but after all i am 22, so i should be at the higher end, and also prior to any cycle, my test was in the 700's...and finally, it's the ED during sex that is worrying me, which makes me think that after all something must be wrong (never had it before the dbol cycle)...anyhow, taking the advice above, I'll try the clomid and then take new bloods