I found 2 bottles of the 1ad on amazon 3 years ago It was a little to strong for me upset my stomache could barely keep them down. Back inthe day I loved the discount nutrition brand androstenedione. Those first andros were the greatest. I found a good combo that works pretty good I got good results from alkaline creatine dhea and tribulus. The tribulous is tricky though if you don't eat on time it will make you feel shitty. I ran creatine tribulus and dhea 3 times a day between meals. The first thing you will notice right away is that what I call a tribulus boner in the morning. That kicks in right away tribulus is strong stuff. Then after 2 weeks you'll notice that combo will yeld some good pumps in the gym.