"Low dose" DNP experience

xtinct

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I have always had a much harder time dropping bodyfat than gaining new muscle. I had tried the usual clen/T3 combo before but I was never entirely happy with the results. I would like to try GH but since I am not able to afford it right now, I decided to try DNP instead. My cycle went like this:

Days 1-4: 200mg
Days 5-8: 400mg (2x200)
Days 9-12: 200mg
Days 1-12: 50mcg T3

During this time, I also used 900mg test and 50mg Winstrol (winny). The only supplement I used was 600mg of r-ALA.

Overall, I cannot complain about the results. I went from 237 to 231 in less than two weeks. I would have liked to run it at 400mg for more than 4 days, but I just couldn't take the discomfort anymore. I normally took the first dose between 7-9 am and the second dose between 11-12. By 1pm I was totally miserable. I have a desk job in an air-conditioned building, but even without moving at all, my shirt was totally drenched. Just sitting at my desk I was sweating as much as I normally do after a heavy set of squats. I am surprised that nobody at work said anything to me. The only way I was able to be semi comfortable was to not move at all and sit in front of a fan. I cannot imagine what it must be like to take 600mg or even 800mg.

On the positive side, I didn't have a problem with energy and my workouts didn't suffer at all.

I don't know whether it was simply the fact that I have been dieting for a while or whether it was related to DNP, but I was constantly craving carbs. Now some people may think that given the large increase in energy consumption, you can eat like crap and still lose weight -- and for some people that actually seems to be the case -- but when I tried that for the first 3 days, I didn't lose any weight at all. My conslusion is that the best way to use DNP is to take enough anti-catabolics (tren/winny) to minimize muscle loss, and then to basically starve yourself for two weeks while using enough DNP and T3 to force your body to keep burning lots of calories. Normally that would be a bad way to diet, but for the short time that you use DNP (10-14 days) all the normal rules go out the window. The only alternative would be to use a very low dose (100-200mg) and just do your regular diet. That may actually be the better way to do it, but I am not convinced that DNP is completely safe. I am willing to take the risk for 14 days, but I don't think I would want to take it for 6-8 weeks.
 
i used 200mg for 8 days while on fina. My weight was 180 at the time with bf at about 12-14% when i was done i was 5lbs lighter, BF was deff noticable lower and strenght when up 10lbs for the week. Sides were mederate at their worst (i sweat alot while on cycle normally, so i was use to it). I may try some again for 2 weeks during my next cycle, if i do i will deff post the results.
 
oh yea, i think the carb craving was from the DNP, b/c i was dying for carbs about 10 times more than on a usual diet
 
im on my 4th day of dnp 200mg...and i've only lost 1 lb...am i retaining water??...im fairly lean rite now at 8% bf and using fina...is it the water??

pudge
 
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congrats xtinct . pudge its hard to say this early for sure but i personally hold a pretty good bit of water while on dnp but everyones different . at 200 mg a day your diet will have to be in check to see a lot of results from dnp but if your on pace to loose about 2 pounds a week and havent cut your calories from what you were eating to stay the same weight then i would say your low dose dnp cycle is succesful .
 
pudge said:
im on my 4th day of dnp 200mg...and i've only lost 1 lb...am i retaining water??...im fairly lean rite now at 8% bf and using fina...is it the water??

I didn't notice much water retention at 200mg. You could try bumping the dose to 400mg, or dropping your calories even lower. FWIW, I didn't see any weight loss at all during the first 4 days at 200mg. Keep in mind that due to the long half-life, DNP accumulates in your body. Just give it 2 more days. If nothing has changed then, drop your calories or increase the dose.
 
lower my calories?? i thought dnp worked on calories...it uses those calories to burn more..so why would i have to lower calories? it doesnt make sense to me...sorry guys, im really frustrated, im here with this stupid ass diet not knowing what to do...
 
DNP increases the amount of calories your body uses, but you still need a calorie defecit to lose fat. The greater the deficit, the more weight you will lose. Now, maybe if you do insane doses like 600-800mg, then your metabolism increases so much that you can get away with not really dieting and still lose weight, but 200mg won't have that effect. I had the best results when I kept my calories as low as possible. There were days when I probably didn't even get 2000 -- take a look at my avatar, and you will realize that for my size that is almost like not eating at all.

Try this: eat 9 Cal/lb and try to make as much as possible of that protein. Keep your carbs as low as possible, and maybe increase DNP to 400mg. Do that for one week and you will see a difference. At 400mg, water retention may become an issue, so you will probably look best 3-5 days after the last dose.

One more thought: are you using T3? T3 and DNP seem to work very well together. You don't even need a huge dose -- for me, 50mcg split into 2 doses worked well.
 
no, no t3 yet...im about 12.5 wks out from my show...i was thinking about starting low dose t3 (12.5mcg) next week until 6-7 wks out when i wil up the dose...but starting tomorrow on my 5th day of dnp, i will increase it to 400mg and see what happens
 
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