Hello everyone. Im not sure this is the proper category for my post but it was the closest i found. I will try to make a long story short. I started cycling about 3 years ago but had to stop 13 months ago due to a zero sperm count and my wife and i trying to conceive. I am 29 years old by the way. Went in for another semen analysis a month ago after 3 months of dr prescibed clomid and had a sperm count of 45 million which is excellent. Problem is I have zero sex drive and no motivation to work out anymore. blood work came back with a test level of 417 and my dr says this is within the normal range but i think its low. Would it be a terrible idea for me to start something like a testosterone only cycle while still trying to have a baby?
low testosterone and baby making
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Megatron28
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Exogenous Testosterone will shut down your LH and FSH. FSH is needed to produce sperm. I think you have two options:
1) Stick it out with the clomid for a bit longer and get her pregnant fast! Then you can go off it and back on Blasting and Cruising.
2) Go on TRT and take hCG. No guarantees on where this will put your sperm count though. Many guys are able to conceive this way though. If the hCG doesn't work you could take hMG but I believe it is expensive.
If you go on TRT, get your doc to prescribe it for you as a treatment for your hypogonadism.
Good luck getting one past the goalie.
1) Stick it out with the clomid for a bit longer and get her pregnant fast! Then you can go off it and back on Blasting and Cruising.
2) Go on TRT and take hCG. No guarantees on where this will put your sperm count though. Many guys are able to conceive this way though. If the hCG doesn't work you could take hMG but I believe it is expensive.
If you go on TRT, get your doc to prescribe it for you as a treatment for your hypogonadism.
Good luck getting one past the goalie.
juced_porkchop
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hcg on trt or a clomid run while trying to get her preggo IMO
Thanks megatron and juiced porkchop. My doctor wont put me on trt. He says my test levels are average. I was considering during a test cycle on my own and running clomid and hcg along side with it. I have enough hcg and clomid for 6 months. But, I think you may be right megatron. It may be best to just wait it out but so far its not going so well. My doctor says that since I have all the tools i need now that it may be due to stress on her end and if thats the case who knows how long it will be untill she gets preggo and i can get back on.
Megatron28
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If you are only at TT of 417 while blasting clomid I have to imagine that you arebhypogandal when off it. Do you have recent Natty blood work? Maybe you just need a different doctor.
right before i was prescribed clomid I had blood work done. My test levels then were 250ish. This was about 6 months after my last cycle which consisted of decca, dbol, and sust 250. I didnt even think of that but I would have to agree with you that if I was not taking clomid my test levels would be much lower.
juced_porkchop
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Diet can also be a factor, I would focus on that and also maybe add supps that help the body
Alpin
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Just get her pregnant brother...
you're on clomid already just run it longer and get the job done. 417 is not hypogonadal but at the same time your BIO Avail.T maybe low or low normal along with your Free T.
This is why you feel like crap. Did you ever get Estradiol tested?
what dose of clomid are you on?
Get labs done on this and tell us LH/FSH etc
you're on clomid already just run it longer and get the job done. 417 is not hypogonadal but at the same time your BIO Avail.T maybe low or low normal along with your Free T.
This is why you feel like crap. Did you ever get Estradiol tested?
what dose of clomid are you on?
Get labs done on this and tell us LH/FSH etc
What kind of supplements? My diet is really good. I have my diet redone every 3 weeks by a guy that has a supplement shop here in town. Diet has been good since I started training about 4 years ago. Went from 330 lbs at 6'2" down to 183lbs. That's when I started cycling and trying to bulk up. now I'm back up to 220 lbs at 13% bf. Currently I'm just taking the normal stuff. Creatine, bcaas, glutamine, fish oils, and a multi.
Alpin
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I hear you...
thats a weak dose...
try 12.5 mg ED....that way you can get 87.5 mg a week total instead of the 75 mg you are getting now.
if u can handle more clomid go 25 mg a day. ..
that might raise test more. ..
the 14.7 estradiol is regular assay?
Before the clomid are those LH, FSH, Estradiol numbers?
Alpin
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You must have been fresh off PCT with LH that high...
FSH is up there too. Lots of GO signals from your pituitary to your testes...but not much in production to match that.
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