mass cycle suggestions. help needed

[lplionheart]

Hey guys starting my 3rd cycle. Can you give me some recommendations. I want to do a comp this September in tge 80kg category so need to put alot more mass on. Im 5'8 82kg 11% bf 26 yo. My first cycle was prop 100mg eod. 2nd cycle was 500mg sust. 500-800mg bold a week. Didnt really notice the bolderone. Im going to do prop 100 eod and dbol 20mg ed kickstart and maybe sust and deca. Also want to try the sarm mk 677. The gh sarm and see if that helps. Any suggestions?

 

[Kazmir]

How long did you run your EQ cycle? 20mgs of dbol is not worth running IMO

Keep it simple, for mass
weeks 1-14 - Test E 750mgs
weeks 1-12 - Deca 600mgs
weeks 1-4 - Dbol 50mgs /day
weeks 1-16 - Arimidex 0.5mgs EOD
weeks 17-20 - Nolvadex 20mgs/day
weeks 17-20 - Clomid 50mgs/day
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Have caber or prami on hand
OPTIONAL: HCG weeks 1-16 - 500iu

 

[snowpatrol123]

What kaz said...definitely don't bother with a prop + sust combo, makes no sense - pick test C or E, add deca and a DA, kickstart with dbol if you want...good to go.

 

[lplionheart]

What kaz said...definitely don't bother with a prop + sust combo, makes no sense - pick test C or E, add deca and a DA, kickstart with dbol if you want...good to go.

I ran eq for about 25 weeks. I got quite vascular on it but it didnt seem as good as everyone says. Ive just started taking propecia for mpb aswel. Ive heard that the deca and fina problem was a myth but should state that anyway. Do you keep much of the gains from going upto 50mg dbol. Ive heard that you get less bloat and more keepable gains if going 20-30mg

 

[Kazmir]

Keepable gains as far as any gains are completely determined by your diet. For the sake of running dbol for the benefits of it I wouldn't go under 40mgs. If you want less water retention during a kickstart then drop dbol and run tbol at 60 - 80 mgs /day

 

[lplionheart]

Keepable gains as far as any gains are completely determined by your diet. For the sake of running dbol for the benefits of it I wouldn't go under 40mgs. If you want less water retention during a kickstart then drop dbol and run tbol at 60 - 80 mgs /day

Sweet. Might stick with dbol cause I can get it cheap. Do you think it would be detrimental if I cut for two weeks every 2months? I have uni holidays and was thinking about doing an ec stack doing the ultimate diet or keto to get a litle bf% down. Or would it be waisting my gains?
Also do you think I will be fine taking deca and fina?

 

[snowpatrol123]

You don't need fina on a bulking stack - typically running two 19-nors is not recommended either

 

[lplionheart]

You don't need fina on a bulking stack - typically running two 19-nors is not recommended either

Sorry. I mean fina as in propecia for stopping hairloss

 

[lplionheart]

Just been reading about deca and propecia. Are there any other aas that I can take that wont destroy my hair. I might just do eq again. Primo suposed to be good on the hair. Is it work doing? Or anything else I can add to make my stack better

 

[thedooder55]

best mass cycle I've run was test cyp 1000mg/week deca 600mg/week 12mg injectable anadrol ed