MCT oil , fractionated coconut oil, on low carb diet

[anzel]

MCT oil (medium chain triglycerides) or fractionated coconut oil is supposed to be metabolized and used as an immediate source of energy sparing your glycogen.

I use to take a tablespoon or two with every meal while bulking to get my calories up but it is also said to be great when cutting esp on a low carb diet.

My cut in the spring will be 8 week no/low carb , if I use MCT oil, it will be an increase in calories after I cut out cals by removing the carbs. I dont want to cut my protein intake and I already will be eating my fats at bare minimum. Seem tricky adding the MCT in......

Has anyone used MCT oil in this way, wondering if it aided in their cut by giving them energy and helping in fatloss. I never see this product mentioned over discussions of diet.

 

[anzel]

Anyone use this for bulk or cut?

 

[halfwit]

MCT oil (medium chain triglycerides) or fractionated coconut oil is supposed to be metabolized and used as an immediate source of energy sparing your glycogen.

I use to take a tablespoon or two with every meal while bulking to get my calories up but it is also said to be great when cutting esp on a low carb diet.

My cut in the spring will be 8 week no/low carb , if I use MCT oil, it will be an increase in calories after I cut out cals by removing the carbs. I dont want to cut my protein intake and I already will be eating my fats at bare minimum. Seem tricky adding the MCT in......

Has anyone used MCT oil in this way, wondering if it aided in their cut by giving them energy and helping in fatloss. I never see this product mentioned over discussions of diet.

Are you going into ketosis? Low carb is a relative term. If you're planning on dropping carbs down under 50g a day, then you'll need to derive most of your calories from fat as your body can convert high amounts of protein into glucose - defeating the point.

I do enjoy MCT while in keto (it's actually a group of oils) as it supplies flavor and calories I need. I can't say I put it in (coconut oil) any shakes as it tastes (texture) like straight up shortening, and makes me gag as it solidifies.

My .02c

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I used it to drop 50lbs. Great stuff.

 

[anzel]

I used to use it to bulk. Add about 400-500 cals by the end of the day. I only thought of it that way. But I am looking into cutting and read that MCT will make ketones on a low carb diet. The article continued to say even if you have some small amount of carbs the mct will still be made into ketones. I was under the impression that ketones only happen when in NO CARB mode. But then I wonder if the MCT has only one course of metabolization and thats thru the liver and convert to ketones. As in this is the only way the liver can handle it. So the gist of it was that when cutting on LOW CARB by adding in MCT you allow the sparse amount of carbs to keep your glycogen stores put and the body burns the ketones off right away. Best of both worlds! It also read that this type of fat aids in lipolisis .

Now as I mentioned the liver supposedly can only make the MCT into ketones and this becomes the first used energy leaving the small amount of carbs convert to glycogen. I dont know if this is true and I am searching and reading on it. But it makes sense to me and I can give one example of how the liver metabolizes certain things we consume. The example is High fructose corn syrup and alchohol. Of course the body sees these two as a poison and hopefully thats not the case with MCT oil. But when the HFCS hits the liver the only way , the only pathway is to actually get rid of it by sending it to fat storage. The body cant use the HFCS as energy right away and the liver breaks it down into fat. So its conceivable this can be the only way for MCT oil to get metabolized. By conversion to ketones even in the presence of carbs.

As I said I am still investigating.

All in all my cutting diet will be NO/LOW carb for 8 weeks. I will drop carbs and see my calories come down. If I add MCT oil I will add calories right back in. So I have to figure out if its really worth it to even take it.

 

[anzel]

I used it to drop 50lbs. Great stuff.

Really? More info please. Were you using anything else? thermos? T3? Etc?

 

[halfwit]

I used to use it to bulk. Add about 400-500 cals by the end of the day. I only thought of it that way. But I am looking into cutting and read that MCT will make ketones on a low carb diet. The article continued to say even if you have some small amount of carbs the mct will still be made into ketones. I was under the impression that ketones only happen when in NO CARB mode. But then I wonder if the MCT has only one course of metabolization and thats thru the liver and convert to ketones. As in this is the only way the liver can handle it. So the gist of it was that when cutting on LOW CARB by adding in MCT you allow the sparse amount of carbs to keep your glycogen stores put and the body burns the ketones off right away. Best of both worlds! It also read that this type of fat aids in lipolisis .

Now as I mentioned the liver supposedly can only make the MCT into ketones and this becomes the first used energy leaving the small amount of carbs convert to glycogen. I dont know if this is true and I am searching and reading on it. But it makes sense to me and I can give one example of how the liver metabolizes certain things we consume. The example is High fructose corn syrup and alchohol. Of course the body sees these two as a poison and hopefully thats not the case with MCT oil. But when the HFCS hits the liver the only way , the only pathway is to actually get rid of it by sending it to fat storage. The body cant use the HFCS as energy right away and the liver breaks it down into fat. So its conceivable this can be the only way for MCT oil to get metabolized. By conversion to ketones even in the presence of carbs.

As I said I am still investigating.

All in all my cutting diet will be NO/LOW carb for 8 weeks. I will drop carbs and see my calories come down. If I add MCT oil I will add calories right back in. So I have to figure out if its really worth it to even take it.

I've never heard of the liver being able to produce ketones while not in ketosis, as it's basically a survival mechanism that allows us to thrive in times of low vegetation consumption. But then again, I've never really thought of looking into that specifically. It sounds like you will be entering ketosis, so it wouldn't be a problem regardless - as long as you don't go above your body's threshold and (in my case) eat like 100g of carbs in a day.

Ketogenic diets work like any diet, and it will still be a matter of calories in vs calories out. I budgeted my calories for a moderate cut at around 1500kcal below maintenance (my TDEE is close to 4kcals), and went with a 25/70/~5 (P/F/C) macro split, delivering pretty good results. I do want to stress that I am always on AAS, be it TRT or a blast, so I'm able to get away with a more drastic approach, and still avoid too much catabolism.

If you haven't discovered them yet, pork rinds and carb master Greek yogurt are about to become your best friends in a time of food cravings. I was on a strict 20g of carbs/day, so finding "snack foods" that were not detrimental to my goals was a challenge at first.

Keep us posted on any findings you come up with on the MCT, it'll be great to find out new things when it comes to a "secret" fat cutting tool.

 

[3J]

this is new ground really.. using mct oil to lose bodyweight..

ive read the article you are talking about.. it has some flaws in it

but, i do agree that mct oil is great for cutting..

i actually use it in my coffee every morning.. not only does it help with energy but it also curves your appetite well thanks to the coffee

 

[cybrsage]

Wow, I will have to check into it. Just a teaspoon in the coffee?

 

[anzel]

I will read on and see what else I can find halfwit. Thanks for the info!
Good Idea about using it in coffee 3j.