Medi Tren E and Test E Cycle

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More Test please!
This will be my third cycle.

Running: Medistar:
Tren E:300mg split into 150mg mon thur 1-7 weeks
Test E:500mg split into 250mg mon thur 1-12 weeks

Nolv on hand for post cycle.

Currently a week and a half in. This is my second Medi only cycle.

BF about 12% aiming to lower it to 7%
Wieght 199lbs 5'11"
Arms 17 1/2"
Chest 47"
Bench 250lbs x 10 reps


Firstly this is not a bulking cycle, my goals are to lean while getting some lean gains. 10 lbs lean mass would be more than great but realisticaly I am looking at maybe 7lbs max.

I have my workouts split into three days with one day off every 7th day.
Back and Bi's
Chest, abs and legs
Shoulders and tris

Cardio is @ 1 hr a day in the 700 cal range on treadmill and bike.

So far I am 3 injections in.

Main thing I am going to report is the tren side of this journey.

Already I am noticing night sweats. My gf has commented on it several mornings that while I was sleeping I was soaked. My cardio has not had any negative sides except I am sweating buckets more than normal. At the start of my workout I was 199.0lbs 2 hours later at the end I was 197.1lbs and I was drinking allot of water in between each set. My shirt was soaked.

I know it's still early but I feel flush and always on the verge of sweating even at rest. This kicked in today.

Strength is about the same still. Resting heart rate is up slightly at 78bpm (usually at about 64BPM). BP was 117/67 last week, right now unknown. I was a little nervous about running a long ester but so far so good. Will keep you posted.
 
300mg Tren e a week is low, I would double it. Test is at a good dose, but if the gear is quality your nipples will be blowing up in about a month. I have heard some good and bad things about medistar, mostly bad. Im curious to see how you make out, keep us updated.
 
300mg Tren e a week is low, I would double it. Test is at a good dose, but if the gear is quality your nipples will be blowing up in about a month. I have heard some good and bad things about medistar, mostly bad. Im curious to see how you make out, keep us updated.

that's a pretty innacurate statement, at 500mg test most people are fine with gyno sides although you should still have shit on hand for it.
 
So, for the first time gyno has reared its ugly head, night sweats are still going, I am on Nolv 20mg and 1.75mg of Bromocriptine now and Gyno under control. I am down about 5 lbs of fat and weigh what I did at the start. Big strength gains, cardio is the shits.

BP has gone up highest 140/70 mean is about 127/68

Medi is legit as far as ugl goes. I have done HG Test and I have the same gains from both. Tren is great for cutting but I am on my last shot and not cracking the second vial until I get some letro on hand for the the next run. I am glad I am only on 300 as I have never had gyno like this before. Lucky for me I have 300+ HG nolv and Bromo on hand sadly no letro which I am regretting not getting.
 
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Gyno under control as of today. Bromo and nolv have done the trick, I plan on continuing with test for several more weeks before mexico :D
 
Why does there seem to be a high rate of gyno flare ups with tren? From what i have read tren should not cause gyno. Is it just the way the people posting are reacting to the test? I hav run test cycles in the past with no issue whatsoever. I had been considering running a test/tren cycle soon. Should I expect gyno issues with that cycle or not being that I had no trouble on test, test/deca in the past?
 
Tren is very prone to gyno. If I didn't have bromo and nolv on hand, things could have got ugly. Prolactin levels rise with tren as such you need a dopamine antagonist to lower prolactin levels (Bromo or letro).

Some people whine about bromocriptine side effects, I personally have found them to be minimal at 2.5mg a day. About a hour after I take one, I feel kinda groggy but it passes and seems to have lessened as the days have gone by. Gyno progression has ceased.

I ran deca and test last round with no gyno, tren made me flare up 5 weeks in. Have a large supply of bromo and nolv on hand before you take the plunge.
 
Tren is very prone to gyno. If I didn't have bromo and nolv on hand, things could have got ugly. Prolactin levels rise with tren as such you need a dopamine antagonist to lower prolactin levels (Bromo or letro).

Some people whine about bromocriptine side effects, I personally have found them to be minimal at 2.5mg a day. About a hour after I take one, I feel kinda groggy but it passes and seems to have lessened as the days have gone by. Gyno progression has ceased.

I ran deca and test last round with no gyno, tren made me flare up 5 weeks in. Have a large supply of bromo and nolv on hand before you take the plunge.

Interesting. I was reading in the steroid profiles section of this site earlier today. It siad in there that tren does not cause gyno at all and that it does not aromatize like test does. Your experience seems to contradict that though. I am still deciding if I want to run tren or not. I hear the stuff rocks though so I am leaning to it.
 
It is prolactin induced gyno, not estrogen. Gyno can form from both. That said if its prolactin, nolv may not be able to stop it completely so bromo is needed.

I can say this run has left me tired and grouchy more then any test runs have. To be completely honest, test and naposim cycle was my favorite for my over all well being feeling. I am not planning on another tren run any time soon as I am not a fan of how grouchy I am. Gains are good but I like feeling good while I am getting them, just my two cents.
 
It is prolactin induced gyno, not estrogen. Gyno can form from both. That said if its prolactin, nolv may not be able to stop it completely so bromo is needed.

I can say this run has left me tired and grouchy more then any test runs have. To be completely honest, test and naposim cycle was my favorite for my over all well being feeling. I am not planning on another tren run any time soon as I am not a fan of how grouchy I am. Gains are good but I like feeling good while I am getting them, just my two cents.

Good info. It sucks that tren seems to affect everyone differently. 20 guys on here will swear it the the only stuff worth running meanwhile 20 others say it wasn't much better than anything else and the sides sucked.
 
It has it's place, but the sides are harsher and there is no happy feeling that goes with it, if that makes any sense.

There is plenty to be gained from test or Sustanon (sust) without adding anything else to the mix for a very long time.
 
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