Military Press

[Jusee]

Try them strict, not a jerk like you would do after a clean.

Yeah, I have done it. Like regular shoulder press only standing. For clean reps like every exercise. It is really not a regular thing for me to do it standing, but I do throw it in the rare time. It is really not hard for me to do at all actually. I use the sme weight as i do on seated, but I get less reps as it takes more effort and energy.

 

[Melbourne]

How is military press different from shoulder press?

 

[monkeymanDK]

Shoulder press is seated while military press is stading.

 

[Jusee]

No, military press is pressing in front of the head sitting or standing. Behind neck press is the other one.

 

[Melbourne]

Well this thread was obviously a good idea.

 

[huskyguy]

No, military press is pressing in front of the head sitting or standing. Behind neck press is the other one.

Actually it is safer than behind the neck presses--something that should be avoided-not a natural movement to press something behind your neck, the benefits of going behind the neck are negligible compared to the possible injuries--stick with military press it is a good exercise.

 

[MANOWAR]

I heard you can completely dislocated your shoulders by doing behind neck presses

 

[huskyguy]

I heard you can completely dislocated your shoulders by doing behind neck presses

That and injuries to your cervical region along with neck muscle tears are quite common--not worth it. I never do pull downs behind the neck either for the same reason.

 

[jcp2]

I have always beleived that about behind the neck presses until i saw some strongman doing behind the neck jerks with 400 lbs plus, and realized i have never heard or seen anyone get hurt from doing a behind the neck press.

 

[Jusee]

i have never heard or seen anyone get hurt from doing a behind the neck press.

I guess its just the mechanics of the movement that is not natural and has potential of causing injury.

 

[Melbourne]

I have always beleived that about behind the neck presses until i saw some strongman doing behind the neck jerks with 400 lbs plus, and realized i have never heard or seen anyone get hurt from doing a behind the neck press.

I am recovering from a shoulder reconstruction. My days of behind-the-neck press and behind-the-neck pull downs are over.

 

[fullypaully]

IMO l dont see why you need to do milatary press standing or behind the head? does standing or doing it behind the head going to give you 2X better results? personally i rather do somehting that has a less chance of injury

 

[jcp2]

IMO l dont see why you need to do milatary press standing or behind the head? does standing or doing it behind the head going to give you 2X better results? personally i rather do somehting that has a less chance of injury

I don't get how a standing military press has such a higher chance of injury, unless your core is pathetic. And like i said the behind the neck press i have always thought to be a no no until recently as well, but i have never heard anyone get hurt doing them. Bench pressing is probaby the most dangerous exercise for putting the shoulders in a bad position, not behind the necks.

 

[fullypaully]

I don't get how a standing military press has such a higher chance of injury, unless your core is pathetic. And like i said the behind the neck press i have always thought to be a no no until recently as well, but i have never heard anyone get hurt doing them. Bench pressing is probaby the most dangerous exercise for putting the shoulders in a bad position, not behind the necks.

the only reason i say it has a higher chance of injury is people with poor technique, sure if you know what your doing do what you want, but alot of people try to do more difficult lifts without being shown properly then have a high chance of hurting themselves.

 

[jcp2]

the only reason i say it has a higher chance of injury is people with poor technique, sure if you know what your doing do what you want, but alot of people try to do more difficult lifts without being shown properly then have a high chance of hurting themselves.

Now i see, yeah and i agree. I think the standing military is very humbling, so i can see people wanting to put more weight on than they can handle.

 

[Jusee]

Bench pressing is probaby the most dangerous exercise for putting the shoulders in a bad position, not behind the necks.

Thats what I thought as well. a chiropractor told me that flat bench press is more safe than incline and decline press for the shoulders. He said bench press is more safe than millitary press for the shoulders as well.

 

[Melbourne]

...which brings me back to the reason why I commenced this thread.

What is proper form for the standing military press???

 

[Jusee]

...which brings me back to the reason why I commenced this thread.

What is proper form for the standing military press???

Do a clean, and start pressing, or use a rack so you dont even have to clean it up. Keep your balance, and use a grip width that you feel the most in your delts. Mine is medium grip. Go up but dont lock, and go down but dont touch the chest. Keep it 1 or 2 inches up from touching chest.

Is that what you needed? Let me know.

 

[Melbourne]

Elbows straight ahead or out?

Looking up or straight ahead?

No lock out at the top? Pause at the top? Pause at the bottom?

What tempo? That is, fast up and slow down or slow up and slow down etc.

Is the lift primarily with the arms, delts, chest or back muscles? What is the correct posture? Shoulder blades pulled in, neutral or pushed out? Back arched and if so how much?

No lift is a simple as just "lift it above your head and bring it down again". If I'm going to start doing this I want to do it properly from the start so that I get maximum benefit and minimum risk of injury.

 

[silver_shadow]

so how many of you guys do push presses?