Monster Cycle: Test,Tren,Var,HGH,EQ!!!

[BalcoBob]

Monster Cycle-Test/EQ/VAR/HGH/TREN

WK 1-16 Test Cyp 750mgs
WK 1-16 EQ 600 mgs)
Wk-1-8 Anavar 80mgs
WK 8-16 Tren Ace
HGH 2 IUs 6 months


Current Stats

Mass: 195lbs w/ approximately 10-12% bf


Goals

Mass Gain: Gain 15-20 pounds of solid muscle. Drop 4-6 percent body fat.Final Goal: 215-220 lbs with 6 percent body fat.


Diet

First 8 weeks
100 grams of fat
300 grams of carbs
300 grams of protein.
Last 8 weeks
50-60 Fat
100- Carbs
300- Protein

Training

Hyper/Heavy
Hyper days 8-12 reps
Heavy days 5,5,5,2,1

Day 1: Hyper-Chest/Shoulders/Tris
Day 2: Hyper-Back/Bies/Abs
Day 3: Hyper-Legs
Day 4: OFF
Day 5: Heavy-Chest/Shoulders
Day 6: Heavy- Back
Day 7: OFF
Day 8: Heavy Legs
Day 9 :Repeat

Not sure if I have enough days off but when training with juice I think I can get a way without over training.

Cardio- 3-4 times a week (swim,pad work,cardio machines) I will be doing about 20 mins.

Supplements 100 percent Whey, Jacked, Xtend, Optimum Opti-Men, Fish Oil.

Side Notes I fractured and herniated a disc a 6 months ago that's one of the reasons I'm only 195. Ive been on the HGH for 2 and half months. I train MMA so I cut weight for fights another reason I don't weight much. I fight at 185 or 205 if I'm 220 then I cut to 205 and when I'm 205 and a fight comes along I cut to 185. Since I hurt my back i won't be fighting this year so I can really MAX out my gains.

 

[BalcoBob]

Took my first shot yesterday morning 1 CC of TEST and 1 CC of EQ went really smooth. I was messing around on the basketball court when I somehow hurt my neck and couldn't even move . Talk about bad luck and what a horrible way to start a cycle. So I'm gonna take the Day off of work/gym. I should be gtg tmmw!

 

[TheMilkMan]

I would mix up the Hyper and Heavy days. As a power-lifter, going heavy constantly puts an enormous strain on the CNS and I can feel the fatigue if I don't take enough time off or train with maximal effort too often. Overall, I like the idea of the split and definitely prefer it over more "traditional" bodybuilding training methods.

You're goals, while great and enough to keep you very motivated, are VERY lofty. A 20lb muscle gain with a 5% body fat loss really equates to a positive swing of 30lbs... Pretty tough to do in a 4 month period. If I were you, I would look to maintain your body fat for the first 8 weeks while packing on quality mass and let the Tren keep you lean for the last 8 weeks. If you are truly 10-12% body fat (which I assume you are because you're not stupid and have been around the block) you are plenty lean for an end of summer into fall bulking cycle. At the end of your cycle, it's going to be Christmas. Does it matter if you have 6% body fat then? Stay lean enough to make a cut in the Spring easy on yourself and pack on mass now.

I like the first 8 week macro break down for bulking, you may even be able to bump it up a little bit if you aren't going the way you want. I would keep it the same for the last 8 weeks and just let the Tren do it's job... Tren makes fat MELT off my body. It's a love hate relationship for me.

 

[BalcoBob]

I would mix up the Hyper and Heavy days. As a power-lifter, going heavy constantly puts an enormous strain on the CNS and I can feel the fatigue if I don't take enough time off or train with maximal effort too often. Overall, I like the idea of the split and definitely prefer it over more "traditional" bodybuilding training methods.

You're goals, while great and enough to keep you very motivated, are VERY lofty. A 20lb muscle gain with a 5% body fat loss really equates to a positive swing of 30lbs... Pretty tough to do in a 4 month period. If I were you, I would look to maintain your body fat for the first 8 weeks while packing on quality mass and let the Tren keep you lean for the last 8 weeks. If you are truly 10-12% body fat (which I assume you are because you're not stupid and have been around the block) you are plenty lean for an end of summer into fall bulking cycle. At the end of your cycle, it's going to be Christmas. Does it matter if you have 6% body fat then? Stay lean enough to make a cut in the Spring easy on yourself and pack on mass now.

I like the first 8 week macro break down for bulking, you may even be able to bump it up a little bit if you aren't going the way you want. I would keep it the same for the last 8 weeks and just let the Tren do it's job... Tren makes fat MELT off my body. It's a love hate relationship for me.

Yeah my goals are a little crazy your right but I've always been one to make my goals very high. My diet has always sucked so I'm gonna need you to pick me apart when it comes to that. I figure the first 8 weeks I can gain as much mass as I can without putting on fat then stay there and really lean out.

MilkMan what was your favorite cycle you've done?

 

[BalcoBob]

Diet for day 1

Meal 1
Wheaties fuel,Protein Shake 40 grams

Meal 2
Oatmeal, Protein Shake 40 grams

Meal 3
Salmon, Green Beans, Cran Juice

Meal 4
Protein Shake 40grams

Meal 5
8 oz chicken, Broc

Meal 6
Protein shake 40grams

Meal 7
6 egg whites,1 table spoon olive oil

First day of the diet is always hard when it comes to eating enough and the right foods. I was hurt yesterday which didn't help at all and I couldn't get to the store to shop. My neck feels much better today so I will hit my day 1 routine and really eat my butt off.

 

[TheMilkMan]

Yeah my goals are a little crazy your right but I've always been one to make my goals very high. My diet has always sucked so I'm gonna need you to pick me apart when it comes to that. I figure the first 8 weeks I can gain as much mass as I can without putting on fat then stay there and really lean out.

MilkMan what was your favorite cycle you've done?

The Tren should lean you out just fine IMO...

My favorite cycle... Test/Tren for sure... 750mg/wk Test and ~400mg/wk Tren. I got so lean and so strong on that cycle. It was only 9 weeks which was kinda a bummer but anymore Tren would have been too much for me. I got bad sides but incredible gains, so it was kinda a love hate.

My least favorite cycle... Test/EQ... 750mg/wk Test and 600mg/wk EQ for 15 weeks. I was disappointed that I really got almost nothing out of the EQ. I ran an additional 6 weeks of Anavar on top of that (with the same Test dose) and feel like I got more out of those 6 weeks then the 15 before.

 

[TheMilkMan]

Diet just needs more whole food IMO... You got the right idea, just keep the shakes to a minimum and you should fair well.

Who's in the Avatar?

 

[waceyf]

X's2 on the whole foods and less shakes. You'll grow better

 

[BalcoBob]

Okay so more whole foods. I really appreciate the info guys. I refresh my log more then I'd like to admit so it's nice when I get feedback. I'm gonna add atleast 2 more whole meals.

Milkman I've done a test/eq and didn't like it at all maybe because I was spoiled from the tren. It's like driving a viper and then driving a mustang it just doesn't compair.

 

[BalcoBob]

Day 1 Workout

Cardio: 20 mins pad work

Chest and Tries (Hyper)

Remember I train MMA so I can't just be huge I have to be explosive. GSP is one of the best if not the best MMA fighter out there and that's where I got the med ball pass from. I posted a video at 1:50 you can see what med ball pass are.

Flat Bench/Med Ball pass
205x12/15 med ball pass
215x10/10 med ball pass
225x10
Drop Set: 225x6,205x4,185x3,105x10

YouTube - Jonathan Chaimberg Training Session with GSP, Loiseau and Kang


Smith Machine Incline Bench Press back on the ball, legs off the ground. I stole this from Anderson Silvia.
105X10
110X8
115X8

Seated Cables
160x10
170x8
180x8

Dips
No weight x 12
No weight x 12
No weight x12

Tricep Rope Pulldowns
170x15
180x15
180x15

Ball Pushups
No weight x 8
No weight x 8

Seated Cables
160x8
170x8
180x8

Stretched: 10 mins


Side Notes: My goal isn't just to be big, I'm trying to be as athletic and flexible as possible. Please chime in if you think I'm doing to much or maybe not enough.

 

[BalcoBob]

Diet for day 2

Meal 1
4egg whites,cup oatmeal

Meal 2
Wheaties, Protein Shake 40 grams

Meal 3
Salmon, Green Beans, Swt Potato,hand full Almonds, half loaf wheat bread,5 ahi strips.

Meal 4
Protein Shake 40grams

Meal 5
Roast beef sandwhich with wheat bread, 20 gram protein shake.

Meal 6
4 ahi strips,8 oz chicken

Meal 7
protein shake 40 gram

 

[TheMilkMan]

Milkman I've done a test/eq and didn't like it at all maybe because I was spoiled from the tren. It's like driving a viper and then driving a mustang it just doesn't compair.

That's exactly how I felt and why I advise most against running the strongest compounds immediately.

Something to think about also. If you are an MMA fighter, EQ and Tren are probably not the best compounds to run. They are known for killing wind.

 

[edogger]

That's exactly how I felt and why I advise most against running the strongest compounds immediately.

Something to think about also. If you are an MMA fighter, EQ and Tren are probably not the best compounds to run. They are known for killing wind.

why would EQ kill your wind? It increases RBC which increases Vo2 efficiency.

Increasing aerobic capacity is about the one thing that EQ is actually good for.

 

[TheMilkMan]

why would EQ kill your wind? It increases RBC which increases Vo2 efficiency.

Increasing aerobic capacity is about the one thing that EQ is actually good for.

That may well be the science behind it and I'm sure you're stating facts. I have experienced a decrease in wind on EQ and have a few people that I know that have experienced similar. If all factors are kept the same and EQ is introduced into the system, I would assume you're right. What I have seen is the additional weight and water I had on me while on EQ resulted in problems with my wind. I never trained specifically for endurance while on gear but these have just been my experiences.

 

[edogger]

That may well be the science behind it and I'm sure you're stating facts. I have experienced a decrease in wind on EQ and have a few people that I know that have experienced similar. If all factors are kept the same and EQ is introduced into the system, I would assume you're right. What I have seen is the additional weight and water I had on me while on EQ resulted in problems with my wind. I never trained specifically for endurance while on gear but these have just been my experiences.

Well i think you kind of said it yourself, the extra water and weight are really the culprit, not the EQ. Even if you have improved oxygen effeciency its not gonna do much good if youre carrying and extra 25lbs around.

Training for endurance and training for size dont really mix well.

 

[TheMilkMan]

Well i think you kind of said it yourself, the extra water and weight are really the culprit, not the EQ. Even if you have improved oxygen effeciency its not gonna do much good if youre carrying and extra 25lbs around.

Training for endurance and training for size dont really mix well.

You're absolutely right. As a powerlifter, EQ doesn't have much use for me so it was kind of a one and done deal for me. Some people love it, so I figured I would give it a go.

 

[BalcoBob]

I know Tren kills your cardio but I don't need to work on my cardio right now. I wanna get to about 215-220 and then if I need to I can cut to 205 plus I don't have any fights set up.

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She is beyond hot...