my experience with Optimum Pharma

Charles Bronson

old timey gentleman
this won't win me any friends..

plenty of people were aware of this situation, I'm still being asked why i didn't post about it here..

enough times that I'm just going to clear the air once and for all.

i had some financial ups and downs with unseen expenses rolling in, caused me to push back restocking my testosterone for my TRT and a planned cycle by more than a few weeks..

local guy id used for years is no longer around, OP and their shipping options looked like the way for me to go

had talked to doc pheonix on here, been assured that shipping was exceptional and not to stress.

doc seemed like a good dude, down to earth and very helpful.

pinned my last trt dose a week before ordering, nobody's fucking fault but mine on that tip guys - but honestly i had shit popping up on me right and left to the tune of costing me almost $12k!!! financially slammed into pushing back restocking my testosterone so fucking close to the end of my trt supply..

placed my order on feb 15th, op picked up the donation on the 16th

i paid for the express "four day shipping!"

things seemed to be going awful slowly for a four day turnaround.

i didn't push it, if i got the pack in a week, ten days i would be fine..

after a week without being sent a tracking number - nothing - i started trying to find out what when where..

OP communicated with me a few times, very polite..

it was a little disconcerting that two weeks in a row i received this exact same message

" your package is set to be shipped out next tuesday due to certain circumstances"

ok..

when the pack was finally shipped - i noticed OP had fudged my address

i contacted them several times, they responded finally- telling me it had been fixed

it didn't appear to have changed on the tracking info, when i contacted them again they assured me it had been..

a few days later i saw that actually it had not been corrected, that the delivery service had listed on the tracking information that delivery had been attempted

" package undeliverable, address does not exist - address correction requested"

i ran down my pack over the course of two days, literally being bounced from one service location to another- finally catching up to my pack as it was coming off a truck BACK into the delivery services warehouse..

two counties over and an hour and a half from where i live.

ordered feb 15th. OP picked up donation feb 16th.

pack intercepted March 13th half way across the state.

i had tried contacting their rep on here, doc phoenix, to get some help in getting my pack shipped out, and then again for correcting the address..

apparently he had business out of town. was off the boards from feb 16th until march 7th

man, doc has a life and things going on - and that is understandable..


but seriously.. i thought it was poor taste that doc posted a new thread here , march 7th, about OP's fast shipping and impeccable service - while I'm still driving around the state looking for my pack. fuck!!!!!


now i don't fault doc for OP having whatever reasons/ circumstances that kept them from sending out my pack for weeks. i don't fault doc for the address being incorrectly marked for the delivery.

but i damn sure wish he had been around from feb 15th to march 7th, feel like he would have been able to expedite things and at least kept me from being stranded. honestly - once he got involved - i felt better knowing that no matter what happened - OP and doc would make sure that i got SOMETHING to keep me from being so damned miserable..


think about my situation - my testosterone was fucking crashed, i was stranded and miserable as fuck waiting on a pack that was going to be sent BACK to the shipper if it was deemed "undeliverable" when i had paid cash for the express shipping option.

during all the misery of being crashed on top of the anxiety about ever getting my fucking pack -

there was a member of the board here offered to help me out..

a perfect stranger that stepped up to help me out - just because they knew how fucking miserable it is to have your testosterone levels crashed to nothing.. this guy has a brother in me now, i don't take people like that for granted. very rare to come across someone with that kind of character, integrity

seriously guys, i felt like i was 100 fucking years old, it was really just fucking brutal. i hadn't been crashed in over four years and i swear to god i had forgotten just how god damned miserable it really was..

in addition to the member here offering to reach into his own pocket to help me out - i talked to PSL for the first time.. what can i say about these guys? before doc came back and was available- PSL was ready to step up and make sure i had some meds on hand until my pack landed - regardless of payment or repping them to people about their good deed.. just solid people, i really appreciated the dialogue they had with me during that time

they earned my respect, I'm going to be sending them business in the future.. in fact, ill be sending everyone who asks me to these guys. PSL is the shit boys!

there has been a couple other members on here who had very nearly the same damned experience with OP that i did, right around that same time.. and right down to the " your pack will be sent out next tuesday" responses and the fukcing address being off by just enough of a cunt hair to cause mayhem..

maybe OP had some things going on? now they're back on track? i don't know

maybe the members here who had similar experiences to mine will chime in.. seems like a lot people are afraid of drawing the ire of others for speaking out on certain issues. me personally , i really don't give a fuck if anybody is annoyed with me over this.

truthfully, nobody worth their salt actually wants to piss and moan about anything

I'm relating what i experienced, and thats it

rant over, thats the straight dope on my first tango with OP

would i use OP again? if i hadn't talked to PSL i almost certainly would have sent OP more business, shit happens

the gear i picked up from them appears to be correctly dosed, doing a fine job- as advertised.

I've ordered the rest of my gear from PSL, i will NEVER be caught so close to running out of my TRT

lesson learned... a couple lessons learned actually


Bronson
 

Teutonic

New member
Running out of test is a lesson that ranks right up there with me telling the old man off when I was 14 and he asked me as I was cutting across the family room in 1978 munching a piece of fried chicken
" GD boy..why are you always s the first one to eat the GD fried chicken? Why can't you wait like everyone else ?" " I m NOT THE FIRST ONE to eat the GD ....."
First and last time I cussed my dad. When I was conscious I went to bed hungry...with a burn from rolling into the red hot stove as I was rolling like a crash test dummy. If more dad s stayed with their boys and did not let mom s or school teachers who cannot do what needs to be done to today s man boys...act right or get punched..we re doomed but I digress..

I ve harped on this topic so many times to young guy s or new guy s. Order small, never more than you can AFFORD to lose as this is a complicated process. Get a pack order again..repeat. When u get a good line put it in your quarterly budget if you cycle and monthly if your trt like me.
At 1 cc a week for trt I always have 6 -18 months hg...and x amount ugl...I am older wiser smarter more scared of mishap I guess. No time for other people issues. If my supplier is behind 4 day 4 weeks 4 months.....proper planning positively preps for potential pitfalls . Regardless of who what or why something got --cked up. And while it un--ucks itself I only may have to fall back to trt maintenance of 125-200 mg a week.

A test crash, after being on trt and cruises or blasts could potentially devastate a person. I am 4-4 w PSL..with my trt keeping me between high 7 s and low 9 s on a 220-1100 lab-corp test range.
 

Dr.Phoenix

OPTIMUM PHARMA ADVISER
this won't win me any friends..

plenty of people were aware of this situation, I'm still being asked why i didn't post about it here..

enough times that I'm just going to clear the air once and for all.

i had some financial ups and downs with unseen expenses rolling in, caused me to push back restocking my testosterone for my TRT and a planned cycle by more than a few weeks..

local guy id used for years is no longer around, OP and their shipping options looked like the way for me to go

had talked to doc pheonix on here, been assured that shipping was exceptional and not to stress.

doc seemed like a good dude, down to earth and very helpful.

pinned my last trt dose a week before ordering, nobody's fucking fault but mine on that tip guys - but honestly i had shit popping up on me right and left to the tune of costing me almost $12k!!! financially slammed into pushing back restocking my testosterone so fucking close to the end of my trt supply..

placed my order on feb 15th, op picked up the donation on the 16th

i paid for the express "four day shipping!"

things seemed to be going awful slowly for a four day turnaround.

i didn't push it, if i got the pack in a week, ten days i would be fine..

after a week without being sent a tracking number - nothing - i started trying to find out what when where..

OP communicated with me a few times, very polite..

it was a little disconcerting that two weeks in a row i received this exact same message

" your package is set to be shipped out next tuesday due to certain circumstances"

ok..

when the pack was finally shipped - i noticed OP had fudged my address

i contacted them several times, they responded finally- telling me it had been fixed

it didn't appear to have changed on the tracking info, when i contacted them again they assured me it had been..

a few days later i saw that actually it had not been corrected, that the delivery service had listed on the tracking information that delivery had been attempted

" package undeliverable, address does not exist - address correction requested"

i ran down my pack over the course of two days, literally being bounced from one service location to another- finally catching up to my pack as it was coming off a truck BACK into the delivery services warehouse..

two counties over and an hour and a half from where i live.

ordered feb 15th. OP picked up donation feb 16th.

pack intercepted March 13th half way across the state.

i had tried contacting their rep on here, doc phoenix, to get some help in getting my pack shipped out, and then again for correcting the address..

apparently he had business out of town. was off the boards from feb 16th until march 7th

man, doc has a life and things going on - and that is understandable..


but seriously.. i thought it was poor taste that doc posted a new thread here , march 7th, about OP's fast shipping and impeccable service - while I'm still driving around the state looking for my pack. fuck!!!!!


now i don't fault doc for OP having whatever reasons/ circumstances that kept them from sending out my pack for weeks. i don't fault doc for the address being incorrectly marked for the delivery.

but i damn sure wish he had been around from feb 15th to march 7th, feel like he would have been able to expedite things and at least kept me from being stranded. honestly - once he got involved - i felt better knowing that no matter what happened - OP and doc would make sure that i got SOMETHING to keep me from being so damned miserable..


think about my situation - my testosterone was fucking crashed, i was stranded and miserable as fuck waiting on a pack that was going to be sent BACK to the shipper if it was deemed "undeliverable" when i had paid cash for the express shipping option.

during all the misery of being crashed on top of the anxiety about ever getting my fucking pack -

there was a member of the board here offered to help me out..

a perfect stranger that stepped up to help me out - just because they knew how fucking miserable it is to have your testosterone levels crashed to nothing.. this guy has a brother in me now, i don't take people like that for granted. very rare to come across someone with that kind of character, integrity

seriously guys, i felt like i was 100 fucking years old, it was really just fucking brutal. i hadn't been crashed in over four years and i swear to god i had forgotten just how god damned miserable it really was..

in addition to the member here offering to reach into his own pocket to help me out - i talked to PSL for the first time.. what can i say about these guys? before doc came back and was available- PSL was ready to step up and make sure i had some meds on hand until my pack landed - regardless of payment or repping them to people about their good deed.. just solid people, i really appreciated the dialogue they had with me during that time

they earned my respect, I'm going to be sending them business in the future.. in fact, ill be sending everyone who asks me to these guys. PSL is the shit boys!

there has been a couple other members on here who had very nearly the same damned experience with OP that i did, right around that same time.. and right down to the " your pack will be sent out next tuesday" responses and the fukcing address being off by just enough of a cunt hair to cause mayhem..

maybe OP had some things going on? now they're back on track? i don't know

maybe the members here who had similar experiences to mine will chime in.. seems like a lot people are afraid of drawing the ire of others for speaking out on certain issues. me personally , i really don't give a fuck if anybody is annoyed with me over this.

truthfully, nobody worth their salt actually wants to piss and moan about anything

I'm relating what i experienced, and thats it

rant over, thats the straight dope on my first tango with OP

would i use OP again? if i hadn't talked to PSL i almost certainly would have sent OP more business, shit happens

the gear i picked up from them appears to be correctly dosed, doing a fine job- as advertised.

I've ordered the rest of my gear from PSL, i will NEVER be caught so close to running out of my TRT

lesson learned... a couple lessons learned actually


Bronson
I am sorry to hear bro , as you know we have sent many pm s to eachother, i have a plan to do somethings right for you , can you pm me ?
 

Dr.Phoenix

OPTIMUM PHARMA ADVISER
But i must tell you , 4 days deliery system still works very effectively , you can check by yourself these track no, Your situation was type of a situation which we call ' Accident ' or 'Shit Happens'
 

cybrsage

New member
I have to say, while my first shipment vanished, OP did good to me and express shipped the replacement out after waiting to ensure it was just not a USPS not updating thing. When it was obvious it vanished, I got the replacement in days. Just a few days ago, the original shipment suddenly arrived - a few months after it was declared MIA. They told me to keep it as a birthday gift (my birthday is this month).

I am a bit surprised the express shipping failed you!
 

Teutonic

New member
shit happens..especially in high volume sales add to it the need for hush hush hush as it s less than legal and.....shit s gonna happen
 

Fist

New member
I to had the same shipment trouble but in January. Some how postal code and city was off. Doc was gone for a bit doing shows so coms were difficult. I finally was able to get with OP and fix the mailing info. I know Bronson had this issue and I was fortunate to notice and shared with him the address issue and he was able to grab his up after noticing the same issue. Yes shit happens, but you need that like of communication.
I had a few other issues with my most recent product and this has been the only time I have had this issue with OP. Not going into details over that issue, however what's fair is fair. Today doc did recieve my pics of said issue and has offered to take care of this for me. I know a few others had missing shipments that were made right so good with the bad here! If issue is resolved and I'm sure it will be then over all I have been pleased with the service, products and communication, but this last time was a bit of a hassle. That being said I do believe communication with provided reps is key and this all took place while doc was competing. I feel certain that the problem would have been addressed sooner and problems fixed if he was available at this time.
Like I said before what's fair is fair and I'm a big believer in telling the good and the bad and doc has been spot on in the past for me, so this isn't a total bash by all means. If anything it should speak volumes of how important he is when around.
 

Charles Bronson

old timey gentleman
I to had the same shipment trouble but in January. Some how postal code and city was off. Doc was gone for a bit doing shows so coms were difficult. I finally was able to get with OP and fix the mailing info. I know Bronson had this issue and I was fortunate to notice and shared with him the address issue and he was able to grab his up after noticing the same issue. Yes shit happens, but you need that like of communication.
I had a few other issues with my most recent product and this has been the only time I have had this issue with OP. Not going into details over that issue, however what's fair is fair. Today doc did recieve my pics of said issue and has offered to take care of this for me. I know a few others had missing shipments that were made right so good with the bad here! If issue is resolved and I'm sure it will be then over all I have been pleased with the service, products and communication, but this last time was a bit of a hassle. That being said I do believe communication with provided reps is key and this all took place while doc was competing. I feel certain that the problem would have been addressed sooner and problems fixed if he was available at this time.
Like I said before what's fair is fair and I'm a big believer in telling the good and the bad and doc has been spot on in the past for me, so this isn't a total bash by all means. If anything it should speak volumes of how important he is when around.


and thats all there is to it.

this is not a bash

and to the folks asking me why i hadnt said anything publicly on the boards..

there it is, its all been said!

packs were landing for other people right and left..

then there was me and a couple other people that seemed to get lost in the shuffle... shitty luck

like teutonic commented - high volume biz, shit does happen

FIST im glad your being sorted out bro

thank you for handling that doc, truly.

as far as you an me doc , we were squared up when i got my hands on my pack.. regardless of the rodeo

i hope i made it clear already, i really appreciated you jumping in and making sure i knew i wasn't stranded.

" nobody worth their salt wants to bitch and piss and moan about anything, right or wrong"


pretty sure this is all done.

Bronson
 

Fist

New member
and thats all there is to it.

this is not a bash

and to the folks asking me why i hadnt said anything publicly on the boards..

there it is, its all been said!

packs were landing for other people right and left..

then there was me and a couple other people that seemed to get lost in the shuffle... shitty luck

like teutonic commented - high volume biz, shit does happen

FIST im glad your being sorted out bro

thank you for handling that doc, truly.

as far as you an me doc , we were squared up when i got my hands on my pack.. regardless of the rodeo

i hope i made it clear already, i really appreciated you jumping in and making sure i knew i wasn't stranded.

" nobody worth their salt wants to bitch and piss and moan about anything, right or wrong"


pretty sure this is all done.

Bronson

Communication still lacking!!!!
 

Transporter

New member
I am sorry to hear about your experience Bronson. Me on the other hand have used OP plenty of times with a good experience. One of those times the parts failed to make it through and OP was on the ball. They reshiped and I had them in 4 days time. I did have somewhat similar to your experience with PSL on the other hand and contacted GotGrowth which was was very helpful but at the end of the day just like Teutonic said, when there is high volume biz shit happens. Good news is that you received ur meds and all is good now :)
 

Dr.Phoenix

OPTIMUM PHARMA ADVISER
I am sorry to hear about your experience Bronson. Me on the other hand have used OP plenty of times with a good experience. One of those times the parts failed to make it through and OP was on the ball. They reshiped and I had them in 4 days time. I did have somewhat similar to your experience with PSL on the other hand and contacted GotGrowth which was was very helpful but at the end of the day just like Teutonic said, when there is high volume biz shit happens. Good news is that you received ur meds and all is good now :)
Thank you bro for posting personal experience ...
 

Bryanthebrute

New member
Hey everyone if anyone's looking into optimum and is skeptical about it, I'm here to help! I'm a new athlete at optimum and have been using there gear for over a year now, PM me for any questions about products and remember to put "Bryan the brute sent me" when placing orders for freebies, best regards
 
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