My first cycle HELP ME OUT GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[drewsiph83]

I've been lifting pretty hard and consistant for the last two years straight. Ready to bring myself to the next level!!!!

28 yrs
6'3''
220lbs
13% BF

Here's what I was thinking for my first go around. I'm writing this post to gain some knowledge and to her any different ideas.....


WK 1-10 Test e 500mg a wk
WK1-15 Nolvadex 20mg ED
WK12-15 Chlomid
day 1 300mg ED
day 2-11 100mg ED
day 12-21 50 mg ED

I also wanted to ad some Deca and Dbol in with this.... Andy recomendations? Should I, Should I not?

My main concerns are Bitch tits, Nuts Shrinking, losing my new gains, Body not going back to "normal" after im done.


Is there anything I might be leaving out? HELP ME I'M NEW!!!!!!!!

I also plan to do a weekly picture update to show my progress if thats ok on this board????

 

[Iron Giant]

-Bump the test to 12 weeks, it takes 4 weeks to kick in and 6 weeks to peak - the extra 2 weeks is well worth it.
-Drop the nolva during cycle and get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Adex or Aromasin.
-Run clomid @ 50/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/40/20/20 for post cycle therapy (pct) - beginning 14-16 days after last jab of test.
-Do not add deca (especially on a 1st cycle).
-You could get away with Dbol, for the first 4 weeks if you're hell bent on it, but I would just stick to test.

If your concerned about your nuts shrinking, then get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). You'll lose some weight in post cycle therapy (pct), how much is water/muscle is dependent on factors like diet, training, genetic limit, etc.

Can you elaborate on "normal"? Are you referring to your hormones? Most will be okay with a good post cycle therapy (pct), but there are those who do 1 cycle and it's the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) train (just a risk you have to be willing to take).

Overall, it's not one of the worst designed cycles, but it could be better:
Wk 1-12: Test-e @ 500mg/week (2 shots every 3.5 days. e.g. Mon morning and Thu night).
Wk 2-12: Adex @ .25-.50mg EOD
post cycle therapy (pct) of clomid @ 50/50/50/50 and nolva @ 40/40/20/20, 14-16 days after last jab of test.

You can keep a log with pics, that is fine.

 

[drewsiph83]

Yes by Normal I mean hormones...

 

[Iron Giant]

If your going to throw Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in (it goes sub-Q and you'll need bac water to reconstitute)...blast if for 10 days @ 500-1000iu/day following the last jab of test, up until 4 days vefore post cycle therapy (pct). Run it the last 4-5 weeks of your cycle @ 500-1000iu/week. Or run it the entire cycle @ 4 weeks on 1 week off, 500-1000iu/week. Cheers gov.

 

[lakers0812]

Everything Iron Giant said is correct. I would drop the Dbol for your first cycle. Also definitely no deca for your first. Best of luck!

 

[drewsiph83]

I've been trying to do some reasearch on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but not really understanding what exactly it helps with????? Can you elaberate a little for be me..... I think thats really the last of what I need!

Thanks!

 

[Iron Giant]

Straight from Wikipedia:

"When exogenous AAS are put into the male body, natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down its own production of testosterone via shutdown of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPGA). This causes testicular atrophy, among other things. hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.

High levels of AASs, that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone.[36] In males, hCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone.

If hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland."

Didn't even have to type it, came up in 5 seconds using google - come on, that was preschool. Hope it helps!

 

[dossier31]

get yourself an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and save the nolva for your pct bro. i'll break it down for you:

on cycle AI:
aromasin - 12.5mg eod
adex - .5 mg e3d

pct: (starting 2 weeks after last test e pin)
clomid - 100/100/50/50 (this is a four week teir - ed)
nolva - 40/40/20/20 ((this is a four week teir - ed)

i would continue running your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) right up to the day you start post cycle therapy (pct). as for you nuts shrinking.. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will stop that, but i would wait until you see if you'll need it. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) dose is 500mg/wk split mon/thur. stick with test only for your fist cycle, bro. you need to learn the sides for each compound by taking them one at a time. next cycle, you can add another, but i'd recommend not. instead, next cycle i would stick with test e (maybe go a bit longer) and throw in a prop kicker for the first 4 wks and a taper for the last 4 wks leading right into pct (pct would start 3 days after last prop inject and 2 weeks after last e inject)