My first [injectable] cycle

[staybiig]

Last August I did a oral cycle of mdrol for 4 weeks, which was very successful with size and weight gain.
my post cycle therapy (pct) was on point with clomid and nolva.

I'm 23, 210 lbs, 6', I've been lifting for about 8 years so i know a thongbor two about lifting.

So now I'm looking to start my first injectable cycle within a few weeks, with an oral kick start.
I'm looking to do 10wks
1-4: Dbol-40mg/day
1-10:Test E-250mg/ 2x per week
1-11: Arimidex- .5 mg/ day

Nolva& clomid post cycle therapy (pct) for 4 weeks

I was thinking of possibly doing Winstrol (winny) the last 2 weeks of the cycle into post cycle therapy (pct), or clen

My diet is in check & I'm eating every 3 hrs. Ill be lifting probably 5 days a week for about 1.5-2 hrs a day. Also doing a minimum of 30 mins cardio per day too

Thoughts & suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Of course ill b taking multi-v, milk thistle, Hawthorne berry, saw palmetto

 

[SrbJuicer]

IMO
try using a pyramid style cycle

weeks/1-12/test e-250mg/ 2x per week
weeks/4-8/dbol/40/40/20/20
weeks/1-18/adex-.5mg ed

PCT weeks 14-18/Nolva/40/40/20/20
run the adex through with the nolva
you can choose to run clomid i personally don't use clomid at 50mg ed/4 weeks

use clen same pyramid style from 20mcgs-50mcgs ed but see what works for you and the effects it has with the sides associated, go up to about 100mcgs for a week and then taper down slowly to 60mcgs at the end of week 2 but depends on how your body reacts.. take at least 2 weeks off. if you didnt get any bad sides from 100mcgs
you can pyramid to 120mcgs for future a cycle.

 

[hard2gain]

^^ I disagree with the completely!! I think you need to keep it as simple as possible for your first cycle. Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks not 10. Run the Arimidex all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). No need in complicating cycles from the start, it's your first REAL cycle your gonna blow up.

 

[SrbJuicer]

yess or you can just pin once a week i prefer twice, see what works for you..

 

[tjkita]

ditto

X2 hard2gain!!!!

 

[SrbJuicer]

@tjkita


agree

 

[MeatHead96]

^^ I disagree with the completely!! I think you need to keep it as simple as possible for your first cycle. Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks not 10. Run the Arimidex all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). No need in complicating cycles from the start, it's your first REAL cycle your gonna blow up.

x2 cycle looks good arimidex is a little high to start. I would start at .5eod and increase to ed if needed.

 

[tjkita]

Oral only cycles

BTW read the sticky on oral only cycles when u get a chance bro.

 

[hard2gain]

mdrol is a prohormone isn't it??

 

[bigherm2121]

Yes hard ot is. Ya drop down your adex or your gonna tank your e. Trust me been down that road and low e feels worse than high e. My nipples get a little sensitive and a littlr bloat. When I tanked it I had no libido at all.

Ya if you run dbol 1-4. It's normally used as a kickstart not a mid cycle boost for a long ester cycle!

 

[SrbJuicer]

i personally use .5 adex ed since that is what i have found to work best for me

.. also i have found pyramid cycles to be most effective..with both sust and test e
all depends on how you react to different variations.

 

[SrbJuicer]

i run dbol from weeks 4-8 i find that test levels have peaked for me at around week 4.. so to get the most out of it i run my dbol weeks 4-8.

 

[hard2gain]

Herm, you tanked your E levels like that with arimidex? I've ran it at almost 2mg/day and didn't hit me near like that. Letro on the other hand does!

 

[bigherm2121]

It was Letro! Lol i was running way to much. Letro is just way to strong. Lol now I run Aromasin at like 6.25ed. Makes it just right. Not to much not to little just right. Lol.

 

[hard2gain]

Damn I'm feeling like I have to go back to the letro. I'm running about 35mg/day of aromasin to keep my shit under control! My nips are extremely sensitive to estrogen and I hate letro!! There has got to be another option for me.

 

[bigherm2121]

Grab some adex bro if you haven't already tried it. It's stronger than Aromasin but not as strong as Letro. Kinda the middle man. Give it a shot of you haven't. 35mg Damn bro. You must go through a bottle super fast.

 

[hard2gain]

I was under the impression that aromasin was strong than adex?? I'm gonna start a thread about this so we don't jack this one anymore.

 

[staybiig]

Thanks for all the advice so far!

As for the Winstrol (winny) or clen, you guys think clen is the better option? I have taken clen before & I'm not crazy about having to stop after 2 wks bc the receptors get too used to it

I was also told that I should include Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well? What are the thoughts on that?
I just wanna make sure I'm doing this as right as possible!!

 

[SrbJuicer]

IMO i would suggest clen, unless you want a temp dry look, .. also drys out your joints.. bad.

HCG you can use for the first 2 weeks and last 3-4 weeks,
or run it from weeks 3-12 at 250iu 2 times per week.

for post cycle therapy (pct) some might say to run it 250iu ed for 2-3 weeks, but run which ever you prefer.
i think the Nolva and Adex listed above should be sufficient, but if you want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) go for it.

 

[zimmerdj]

I kept my first injection cycle very simple Because I wanted to know exactly what source was providing certain affects. I was nervous about it and ran test e 250 mg twice a week. I kept a daily log on not only my workout results, but my mood, aches and pains, diet, etc etc. It was very valuable and for me, a nice baby step introduction into all of this. I'm hoping to start my second cycle within the next couple months. As soon as I find a new source.