My first peptide questions :)

[Cobra Strike]

I havent really thought much about peptides but it was brought to my attention the other day by another fellow gym rat and so I researched it for the last couple days and I think I am ready to ask some questions on personal experiences.

1. What is the consensus on the use of peptides?

2. If you have used peptides, which ones and what did you think?

3. My interest so far has been in ghrp-6 and hexarelin for a bulking cycle and hgh frag 176 for a fat loss cycle. Anyone with experience on these?

4. I am running 700 test/week, 400 tren/week, 40mg dbol/week, and some ancillaries and vitamins. With the help of RJ I have got my diet down decent and was wondering if I added a peptide like hexarelin to this cycle, would it give me enough natural hgh secretion to notice any size gains?

My goal is to eventually get to 220 - 230 and stay there. I am 6' 198lbs and about 12 -14% bf (not sure because I dont get my micrometer till xmas but thats me in my pic so has to be close) I read RJs homeostasis thread and it made perfect sense. I just feel that eventually I am going to have to add in some form of hgh enhancement to get and stay where I want...as of right now im just researching.

Thanks guys for taking the time to help me out. I take all the advice I get and incorporate it!

 

[ChrisWho?]

I would like to know this as well as the ghrp-6 has piqued my interest.

 

[UserAt204]

If your looking into peptides for gh release then you need a combination of ghrh/ghrp. Your choices are ghrp2,6 hexarilin,ipamorelin and for ghrh cjc or mod gfr. I think mod grf is the way to go for a ghrh. Now for ghrp they all have diff sides like prolactin, hunger, cortisol. So what fits your needs best. Hex is the strongest then ghrp2 then 6 and ipamorelin but hex down regulates fast and ipam dosent. The combination of ghrh/ghrp is significantly stronger than one alone. I've heard it compaired to anywhere from 5iu of gh a day to 15iu. Not sure how accurate that is. The combo needs to be used three times a day at saturation doses. I wouldn't waste my time with just a ghrp. There is a chart showing the effectiveness of the combination in comparison to gh. What it shows is that the combo spikes gh to much higher levels than gh does but only last two hours. The gh shot lasted about 4 hours both peak then decline. A lot of people are getting good results with this combo for a much better price

 

[drewbolic]

Hexarelin is a six-amino acid peptide that significantly releases growth hormone. Studies have shown that hexarelin is actually more effective and longer lasting than growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH). It is also known that GHRP-6 has a synergistic effect with GHRH, causing a far greater release than either of these substances alone. By combining GHRP-6 with Hexarelin, a more potent GH releasing peptide combination is created than ever heard of. The potential clinical usefulness of these GH releasing hexapeptides is also reinforced by observations that long-term administration produces elevations in circulating IGF-1 concentrations. Long term treatment with GHRP-6 similarly has been shown to elevate serum IGF-1 as well as IGF-binding protein-3 concentrations, alter body composition and promote linear growth. Hexarelin and other GH secratogues show similar potential usefulness by clinical observations that long-term administration produces elevations in circulating IGF-1 concentrations. For example, significant increases in plasma IGF-1 concentrations were noted after 7 days of hexarelin infusion and have even been reported after 7 days of intranasal administration in children and in adults after 7 to 14 days of intranasal hexarelin administration. It is also of interest that long-term administration of hexarelin has been shown to significantly increase circulating GH concentrations as well. The potential clinical utility of these GH secratogues is due to the consistent clinical verification of these findings in individuals of many ages.

 

[UserAt204]

Drew: excellent info but ghrp6 and hex are both ghrp's so seems hex/mod grf or hexcjc is a better combo. I've never seen anything on using hex/ghrp6 together. They are essentialy the same thing(ghrp). Unless I'm reading this wrong.

 

[UODucks]

I did 1000 of 176 hgh frag, cant remember if it was micrograms or milligrams at this late hour and I swore for a couple weeks it was working great. I am now convinced it was a bullshit placebo effect having stopped taking it for a few weeks and experienced better results with my diet and exercise modifications. I didnt really consciously decide to stop taking it, had some time away from my place and just didnt start taking it again.
I have several vials of the tuff sO may try it again, but after debating mentally after reading this thread, I am pretty positive I wont waste my money again, unless I get stupendous results with using the rest of my supply in the future

 

[Cobra Strike]

I did 1000 of 176 hgh frag, cant remember if it was micrograms or milligrams at this late hour and I swore for a couple weeks it was working great. I am now convinced it was a bullshit placebo effect having stopped taking it for a few weeks and experienced better results with my diet and exercise modifications. I didnt really consciously decide to stop taking it, had some time away from my place and just didnt start taking it again.
I have several vials of the tuff sO may try it again, but after debating mentally after reading this thread, I am pretty positive I wont waste my money again, unless I get stupendous results with using the rest of my supply in the future

it was most likely mcg. 1000mcg = 1mg. I have had this thread posted for a few days now and I am surprised to learn that very few have tried peptides. They all sounded very well during my research. So far I have come to the conclusion that if you are going to do the ghrp or hex you may as well just do hgh. The ghrp and hex are best ran at 4 weeks on 4 weeks off (from what I have read) to avoid the negative feedback loop. It sounds to me that hex and ghrp is best used for pct from hgh to recover your natural gh production just like clomid is to testosterone.

Since my research I have formed a new question. Since hexarelin inhibits somatostatin and allows for more natural gh to be released, would this be and effective tool in a pct for tren and test? Here is my theory...Once you do your last inject, then for the next 4 week waiting period while you are waiting for your natural levels to come back before post cycle therapy (pct), would it help to run a gh inducing peptide to help keep your gains? While your test levels are decreasing the gh could help keep/gain muscle? Since the testosterone side of things and gh side of things are 2 completely different systems and hormones, they do not react to one another but rather separately? So one has nothing to do with the other basically...Could this theory work?

 

[timjones123]

Allot more people than you realize have been taking peptides.. They just might not post on your thread.

Hex works OK for a post recovery. It is pointless to talk about combining it simply because there are potential problems if you achieve too much of a release. For adding bulk, GH is the only way to go not only because it is more powerful, but because it also gives you nice burst of energy.

IGF-lr3 is without a doubt the most powerful of the peptides (bulk wise) and gives almost painful muscle pumps, but the dosage needs to be watched very closely. If too high, it will make you want to sleep all the time due to the action of IGF.

 

[timjones123]

Since my research I have formed a new question. Since hexarelin inhibits somatostatin and allows for more natural gh to be released, would this be and effective tool in a post cycle therapy (pct) for tren and test? Here is my theory...Once you do your last inject, then for the next 4 week waiting period while you are waiting for your natural levels to come back before post cycle therapy (pct), would it help to run a gh inducing peptide to help keep your gains? While your test levels are decreasing the gh could help keep/gain muscle? Since the testosterone side of things and gh side of things are 2 completely different systems and hormones, they do not react to one another but rather separately? So one has nothing to do with the other basically...Could this theory work?

Hex is ideal for post cycle therapy (pct) which is why most choose to use it for this. It speeds testicular recovery, as well as helps restore balance much quicker than when not used. I personally would stay away from GHRP-6 unless you enjoy the feeling of wanting to eat the paint off the walls.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Hex is ideal for PCT which is why most choose to use it for this. It speeds testicular recovery, as well as helps restore balance much quicker than when not used. I personally would stay away from GHRP-6 unless you enjoy the feeling of wanting to eat the paint off the walls.

Thanks for the posts. So you are saying that while running a tren/test cycle, it is good to use hex in the pct? Would you start it in the pct or would you start it during the time period between your last inject and before pct?

Thanks again