My first REAL cycle:-)

[penny-wise]

For over a year I have been getting test from a doctor who does not know shit about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). So after asking questions on here and reading for a million hours. I am going to take things into my own hands.
What I am looking at running is 500mg of test a week with 300mg Deca a week. I will be using 500 iu's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a week also and will be taking half a tab of arimidex a a day also. I will run this cycle for 16 weeks.
I want to add the Deca, due to its ability to strengthen tendons.
But will that be enough Deca? and please give me your opinion on this. Thanks

 

[Cobra Strike]

what are your stats??

So are you planning on staying on test the rest of your life or are you just looking to run a cycle?

 

[penny-wise]

I am 25 5'8" weigh 180. been training for 10 years. I went in first and found that I had a test level of 58. ya no mis print 58 so he started pinning me up for over a year. I went off for about 8 weeks and had more blood work done just to see and boom I am steady at 660. Crazy huh. I had more than one test done at start, the second one was like 77. So it was not just a bad day or something. Now I want to do regular cycles.

 

[Cobra Strike]

ok so you are not going to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) then?

 

[penny-wise]

Yes I will be on my own now.

 

[Cobra Strike]

ok...trt gets different advice thats why I wanted to know

I like your cycle with only a few minor changes...

weeks 1-16 deca 400mg/week
weeks 1-18 test e 600mg/week
ai you can start whenever you see signs of gyno and run the aromasin all the way through pct at 12.5mg/ed
dopamine agonist you can also start when you see signs of gyno and run it all the way through pct...prami or caber...starting at .25mg/ed titrating up
hcg looks good...titrate that if you notice testicular atrophy

I would read det oaks sticky "standard pct"..that will teach you about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) usage coming up to pct and your pct

 

[penny-wise]

I could do that. I have enough gear for that. One question, should I split the 600mg test? Like 300 Monday-300 Friday...
Ya i am going to stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after last shot then start some Nolva. That is for PCT.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I could do that. I have enough gear for that. One question, should I split the 600mg test? Like 300 Monday-300 Friday...
Ya i am going to stop Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after last shot then start some Nolva. That is for PCT.

Ya I would split them for sure...help keep blood levels more even that way...

also I wouldnt run nolva alone and make sure you stop your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 4 days before you start pct

 

[foamy27]

Ya I would split them for sure...help keep blood levels more even that way...

also I wouldnt run nolva alone and make sure you stop your hcg 4 days before you start pct

Yea, id run nolva/clomid or even better torem/clomid

 

[Cobra Strike]

well torem and clomid alone is fine...i think you would just be wasting money running them together!