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[AlphaDawg]

Stats
I am 22, 6"0, 160 pounds. I would estimate I am about 12-15% BF. I've got a decent base, been working out since I was 16 on and off. For the last year I've been taking it more seriously. I've no previous experience other than with Ostarine. It's had decent results but I'm looking to jump into the AAS pool. Anyways, here is the outline for my cycle:

test e for 13 weeks
first two, 1000mgs
next 11, 500
two weeks of no injection after
15 weeks total
hcg: 500 IUs a week starting week 1 to 10
1000 IUs from week 10-15
50mgs of var per day from 8-13
some kind of liver protection starting week 8
exemestane (aromasin) all 15 weeks, maybe thirteen

pct:
clomid: 50/50/50/50
nolva: 20/20/10/10

I've a few questions:

Obviously you can see I'm trying to front load for the first two weeks, just wondering if I'm doing it right.

Should I be using aromasin from week 1 until PCT, and at how much dosage?

For the first 8 weeks before the introduction of anavar to my cycle, I don't see the point of doing more than 500 IUs per week.

 

[Megatron28]

You shouldn't be doing a cycle until you are 25. You have a very good chance of seriously messing up your HPTA. Your brain and endocrine system are not fully developed yet. Be smart and wait.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Have you educated yourself to understand why we advise you to not use AAS before you are at least 25?
Haven't you read all these testimonies and posts with guys like you who don't listen and now they can't get it up. Or they are on TRT for the rest of their lives. You don't care now BUT you probably will down the road.
I'm done here, no help from me, I've see the damage AAS can do to a guy too young.

 

[smittiot]

6' and 160lbs is skinny. You need to eat. Go without AAS until you are about 25.

 

[Cheph]

Really bro 160lb and you wanna start aas. And at that age. Think again my young friend. Do it naturally til 25 and then and only then one you've trained hard naturally try aas

 

[AlphaDawg]

Sorry guys, but my mind is made up. If you really wanna help me you'll tell me how to do this as safely as possible in this context. As you can see I've included as many safety precautions as possible.

 

[AlphaDawg]

Without looking at the stats, would you say the cycle is sound? Is it lacking anything?

 

[snowpatrol123]

stats
i am 22, 6"0, 160 pounds. I would estimate i am about 12-15% bf. i've got a decent base

nope

 

[JackedCanada]

Why is there 55555555555555555555 in your post??
-you come looking for advice which you got, it's not safe
-your 6 feet tall and 160 pounds, try some food man
-steroids are not a quick fix, a choice you live with till you die.
-why are you front loading 1000mg first 2 weeks with test E?
- the help you really need is diet and training. 6 feet and 160 pounds ain't shit, your tall lankey build isn't a good base to start, why not bulk naturally, you will be amazed what a little dedication can actually do. At 6 feet you should easily be 180.
- post up your real diet lets see how that looks!

It's annoying when you come in here all "my mind is made up" bull shit when people give you great advice, and ur too stubborn to listen to all the experience guys telling you right

 

[Southernfish]

Browse this site for threads written by guys who have erectile dysfunction, mental issues, zero natural test production, mood swings, unable to function properly in relationships because they used steroids too young and damaged their HPTA and endocrine system. Those things once fubar will not return to normal. Educate yourself on what could happen to you. You should be more wise in your train of thought then to brush guys off and not listen to guys who very well could have started them at your age, and fucked themselves up, and now live with the consequences. Slow down and think about down the road instead of right now because let me tell you jumpin on the sauce right now isnt going to benefit you one bit, and i dont know many bros here who are be on board with a 22yo using steroids.

 

[AlphaDawg]

You guys are probably right. I might run a shorter cycle with prohormones instead so as not to damage my HPTA as much.

It's hard for people to understand that when I say I'm 6"0 and 160 I'm not very lanky. I've always had wide hips and most of my body fat goes to my legs and butt. It's pretty unusual for a male. Even now, at this weight, you can't see my abs. Honestly, if you were to see in real life you would probably imagine I was closer to 180 than 160. So that's not a huge issue for me because when I say I have a decent base it's very different from other guys with my stats.

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http://imgur.com/qxuXhfa

That was me before I started this cycle of ostarine that I'm on. At the time, I weighed about 155. Now I have more muscle and am bigger overall.

 

[Megatron28]

You guys are probably right. I might run a shorter cycle with prohormones instead so as not to damage my HPTA as much.

It's hard for people to understand that when I say I'm 6"0 and 160 I'm not very lanky. I've always had wide hips and most of my body fat goes to my legs and butt. It's pretty unusual for a male. Even now, at this weight, you can't see my abs. Honestly, if you were to see in real life you would probably imagine I was closer to 180 than 160. So that's not a huge issue for me because when I say I have a decent base it's very different from other guys with my stats.

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imgur: the simple image sharer

That was me before I started this cycle of ostarine that I'm on. At the time, I weighed about 155. Now I have more muscle and am bigger overall.

Have you had a doc examine you to look at that possible gyno you have going on?

 

[AlphaDawg]

think its gyno? ive noticed that too. ive never cycled.

 

[Megatron28]

think its gyno? ive noticed that too. ive never cycled.

Hard to tell from pics. Could be pubertal gyno. Get it checked by a doc.

 

[AlphaDawg]

It might be. Why should I get it checked by a doctor? Is it an immediate concern? I've never had problems with it. I know it doesn't look like an average pec but then again I don't have the average body.

 

[Megatron28]

It might be. Why should I get it checked by a doctor? Is it an immediate concern? I've never had problems with it. I know it doesn't look like an average pec but then again I don't have the average body.

It won't cause you harm physically or shorten your life expectancy. If it doesn't get irritated or anything it is OK. Most men don't like gyno from a cosmetic standpoint though. Boobs look better on women.

It could mean your estradiol is elevated now. At a minimum get your blood work done to check hormone levels.

 

[RR88]

Alpha go lift weights and eat a lot for three years and see where your at.

 

[oldmusclemike]

I don't know why this thread is still going. He is either a troll or STUPID. Sorry if this is flaming but really isn't this become a stupid thread if he came for advice and we won't give him what he wants. Just like a kid.

My OP is if anyone gives him advice other than go read, see a doctor and get labs, you are making this forum something the average public thinks... Just a bunch of juice head being hypocrites.

Enough ...

 

[AlphaDawg]

I don't know why this thread is still going. He is either a troll or STUPID. Sorry if this is flaming but really isn't this become a stupid thread if he came for advice and we won't give him what he wants. Just like a kid.

My OP is if anyone gives him advice other than go read, see a doctor and get labs, you are making this forum something the average public thinks... Just a bunch of juice head being hypocrites.

Enough ...

Hey man, if you had been paying attention, you'd have seen that halfway through the thread I agreed with all of you. So don't go ahead and call me an idiot if you glossed over half the thread.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Hey man, if you had been paying attention, you'd have seen that halfway through the thread I agreed with all of you. So don't go ahead and call me an idiot if you glossed over half the thread.

Excuse me, please. I never intended to call anyone or give anyone who had posted already any dig or insinuate anything offensive. Maybe I didn't express myself vey good. (that happens with me a lot?) But I was referring to going any further by any one of us (vets/ experienced) and giving him cycle advice or trying to further educate him. EXCEPT to tell him what you and we all already have told him. IMOP only. NO MATTER WHAT you took personal what wasn't meant to be. So Sorry