My First Test E / Tren E cycle - Open to Advice

[KCinToronto]

Hello everyone, I haven't been on here for awhile as I went on TRT and have been working on getting dialed in. I'm liking where I am at, and I've done and posted about a few cycles in the past. Now I am looking at doing my first Tren E cycle and I am looking for advice. My goals are not complicated. I am 51 years old, 5'9" and 195 lbs. I've been able to maintain the 195-200 lbs since being on TRT almost a year. I would normally go down to 185 - 190 when off cycle. The highest I have ever weighed is 205 and I loved it.

My goal is to be a hard, big. 205-210 in 12 weeks. I'm not so concerned about calling it bulking or cutting. No shows coming, just want to look great, as lean as my photo and a bit bigger.

Since Tren is new to me, here is the cycle I am thinking of:

1-6 - 40mg Dbol
1-12 Test E 600mg
1-12 Tren E 300mg
Arimidex 0.25mg/every 3 days (will adjust if needed)

PCT will be back to TRT.
I have liquid Prami on hand if needed and Letro.

My questions are:
1) Should I just split the Test and Tren and inject twice a week, same needle? (300mg Test/ 150mg Tren)
2) Do I split the Dbol dose during the day or take it all at once. I forget the half life and rule on this.

Am I missing anything? Anything you would change and why?

Thanks for any advice, always appreciated


KC

 

[bonexyster]

Hey man haven't seen you in months glad youre back! You really should pin twice a week with test at 600mg, I usually dosed my dbol 3 times a day but ive ran it as high as 75mg before. at 40 I think twice a day is fine, Id just take the last dose preworkout. Keep us posted and don't stay gone for 4 months next time bro!





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[KCinToronto]

Hey man haven't seen you in months glad youre back! You really should pin twice a week with test at 600mg, I usually dosed my dbol 3 times a day but ive ran it as high as 75mg before. at 40 I think twice a day is fine, Id just take the last dose preworkout. Keep us posted and don't stay gone for 4 months next time bro!
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Hey Bonexyster, how are you. Thanks for the advice. I tend to drift away when I am not "on". The TRT has been interesting convincing my doctor what I need. LOL. But going pretty well lately. energy up, gains consistent, libido up (but I want it higher.)

I was planning on 2 pins a week for sure.
Should I pin the Tren E twice a week as well? OK to combine it with the same pin as the Test?

Do you think it is enough Tren?

I'll likely bump the Dbol to 50 or 60mg day.

KC

 

[hiram1st]

You can load them in the same pin.

How about liver supplement NAC?

Have you ever used tren? The sides are different from person to person but if you have issues the tren e will take awhile to clear out that's why it's recommended to use tren a for your first go with tren.

 

[KCinToronto]

You can load them in the same pin.

How about liver supplement NAC?

Have you ever used tren? The sides are different from person to person but if you have issues the tren e will take awhile to clear out that's why it's recommended to use tren a for your first go with tren.

Thanks Hiram. I have Liv52 but I seem to do well with my liver. I don't drink so that seems to help.
I've never tried Tren.
I'm pretty open. Just hoped to pin twice a week. How often do you need to pin Tren A? Every second day?
Would same dosage be a good start? Total of 300mg per week?


KC

 

[hiram1st]

You shoudl do every day to keep levels even but some do EOD. 300 looks like a good doar since you've never used it.

 

[Onk]

You shoudl do every day to keep levels even but some do EOD. 300 looks like a good doar since you've never used it.

he suggested tren e not a. With tren e your levels will be fine at 2x per week pinning.

However, if it's your first time using tren then running E is complicated as tren has a whole heap of sides and a 2 week half life is a LONG time for it to be in your system if you can't handle them sides!

 

[KCinToronto]

he suggested tren e not a. With tren e your levels will be fine at 2x per week pinning.

However, if it's your first time using tren then running E is complicated as tren has a whole heap of sides and a 2 week half life is a LONG time for it to be in your system if you can't handle them sides!

I'm pretty sure he suggested Tren A.
that's why it's recommended to use tren a for your first go with tren.

I just read the same thing in another forum. I'll get Tren A.

Thanks again

 

[hiram1st]

No I recommended tren a

 

[Onk]

Ah I must have missed post #4. Apologies.

 

[heyjack]

Tren a is best pinned ED but many users do EOD for some reason. Some people have a terrible temper when using tren so just be aware.

 

[KCinToronto]

Tren a is best pinned ED but many users do EOD for some reason. Some people have a terrible temper when using tren so just be aware.

Thanks Heyjack, my wife will just have to put up with me having the temper instead of her for a change. LOL
I just can't imagine pinning every day, what a pain. I'll investigate and read a bit more, but hope to do it every 2 days.
I'll have to try some injection sites I've never tried before, and I remember that pain in my ass the first few times.

Anyone have experience with how Tren A is on your joints? Deca made my joints feel amazing, curious about Tren.


KC

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

HCG is needed 500 I.U E4D for the whole cycle till PCT.
Anadrol is safer with tren-e, not dbol.
aromasin is better A.I 0.25 e3d for the whole till end of PCT ( expensive compounds)
PCt is 21... not 14... but 21 at least after last jab. at least 21 days.

exemestane 0.25 mg ED in PCT for the firsts 2 weeks.
with
clomid 100/100/50/50 and ALSO nolva 20/20/20/20

if needed run PCT over 4 week to 6 week. no HCG during PCT.

Cabergoline is necessary in this cycle. 0.5 e4d till last jab.

If i was you i would take lower dose of test than tren-e.

ounce again. anadrol is safer with trenbolone.

one more little thing taurine 1000mg, Vit b6 ( 300% rd) /ED are a good help in this cycle.

you will need to increase prot every two weeks till 4gr/kg/ed and take carb about 300gr/kg/ed per day.

avoid meat, prefer fish and egg.

don't miss with mineral.

one month after PCT, reach HMG. you will be amazed by this stuff.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

Ho!
i forgot enanthate is a heavy ester. ther's 68mg of tren for 100mg of Tren-e. nothing under 400mg/week.

you can start at 300mg. but reach 400mg/week. for me, 300mg of test/week is enough.

i tested diferent dosage, 25% of test lower than trenbolone seems to be perfet for anyone.

tren-a is 83mg/100mg is more trenbolone. for me the only positiv point is the way it clear your body in case of you will to stop because of sides.

BUT... you will get sides-effects quicker with tren-a than tren-e. allthought they will stay more longer with tren-e.

Tren-e was for years and years, my favorit AAS. i tested it very very several times.

 

[KCinToronto]

HCG is needed 500 I.U E4D for the whole cycle till PCT.
Anadrol is safer with tren-e, not dbol.
aromasin is better A.I 0.25 e3d for the whole till end of PCT ( expensive compounds)
PCt is 21... not 14... but 21 at least after last jab. at least 21 days.

exemestane 0.25 mg ED in PCT for the firsts 2 weeks.
with
clomid 100/100/50/50 and ALSO nolva 20/20/20/20

if needed run PCT over 4 week to 6 week. no HCG during PCT.

Cabergoline is necessary in this cycle. 0.5 e4d till last jab.

If i was you i would take lower dose of test than tren-e.

ounce again. anadrol is safer with trenbolone.

one more little thing taurine 1000mg, Vit b6 ( 300% rd) /ED are a good help in this cycle.

you will need to increase prot every two weeks till 4gr/kg/ed and take carb about 300gr/kg/ed per day.

avoid meat, prefer fish and egg.

don't miss with mineral.

one month after PCT, reach HMG. you will be amazed by this stuff.

Thanks so much for the advice Kane. I'm 2 weeks in and I am going with:
- 700 mg Test E (I have it so I'll keep it there, I love test. LOL)
- 300 mg of Tren A. (might bump it depending on sides, so far only a bit of insomnia)
- 40 mg of dbol. Next time I'll get Anadrol for sure. I'm definitely interested.
- I am doing 250 IU twice a week of HCG. I'll bump that up.
- I'll stick with the Arimidex as I have it and seems to work well for me. I am curious about aromasin though, never tried it.
- Now as far as Caber goes, I did a deca cycle once and my dick shut down bad. I do have Caber and I also have liquid prami. When I started the Tren A, within 2 pins I could not bust a nut. It was wild. I started the Prami at .2 mg at night and I'm up to .4mg. It is working great. Not what it was, but I can finish quite well. I also find the Prami taken before bed helps me to sleep. I wake up in an hour some nights though and feel like I slept 8 hours. I can usually fall back to sleep.

So two weeks in, very limited sides I am not controlling, but I don't get night sweats or Tren cough. I do keep the house quite cold at night on purpose mind you. No tren cough has me wondering about quality.

Yesterday my training partner and I were hitting shoulders and he is doing Test/Deca. It felt like people were staring. When I looked at the two of us in the mirror it was jacked city. Gained about 5 pounds in two weeks. 5'9" 203 lbs now. 205 is my heaviest ever. We're in a more fitness type of people gym, so we feel huge. In another gym we'd be small. LOL.

I did add Taurine as my muscles were cramping from the Dbol I assume. Within a day cramping was gone. Hate the feeling of skating down the ice and my back and biceps start cramping right before I shoot. (hockey of course)

That protein advice is awesome. I've never had the perfect diet. I'm just never that hungry. Bumping that up is a welcome addition and easy to do.

Now for PCT, I am on TRT injections. So my understanding is I just go back on my weekly regiment once cycle is over.

Any advice with regards to this?

Thanks again,


KC