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It's really just a personal preference/comfort thing. There are very few "wrong" ways to inject.
I prefer insulin syringes, usually 30g. I can inject anywhere without discomfort, and there's no dead space.
Anything 25g and smaller is fine with me though, I just prefer insulin syringes. 5/16" 30g more often than not.
I prefer insulin syringes, usually 30g. I can inject anywhere without discomfort, and there's no dead space.
Anything 25g and smaller is fine with me though, I just prefer insulin syringes. 5/16" 30g more often than not.
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Southernfish
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Injecting low volumes, such as a TRT dose, of oil through a very small gauge is fine. But once you start injecting decent volumes, lets say, during a blast, it becomes a pain trying to get all that oil through such a small barrel. It takes forever.
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hiram1st
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I draw with a 23g and inject with a 25g for trt. I've also been doing the same thing on my blasts. 1 or 2 MLS seem to work out fine. At 4 or 5 MLS using 25g seems to take forever.
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Southernfish
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Ya 25g works good for 1 or 2 ml, anything more though I like a 23g myself 
deathwagon
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What do you guys think is the shortest needle that can be used for intramuscular injections? I have big problems with nerve strikes, sometimes it takes 3 or 4 sticks before I DON'T strike a nerve, regardless of where I inject. I'm hoping a shorter needle will alleviate some of the problem.
halfwit
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Unless you're literally at sub-10 percent body fat, I wouldn't go less than 1". If you're doing glutes in your rotation, 1.5" would be best at average body fat levels.
Hitting nerves is more about placement than depth. For example, sticking to the outside of the vastus lateralis for quads will keep you from hitting a nerve most of the time. You can also tell if you're close be gently poking the area with the needle tip; if you feel the sharp poke, move an inch or so and poke again. When it's not as painful, that's where you press the needle in.
Inhaus: I prefer 25g 1" as it is small enough to not create a ton of scar tissue, doesn't bend too easily, and still flows pretty well. I've tried just about everything from 22g on up, and 25g just seems the best fit for IM injects at 0.5-1.0ml as a time.
My .02c
deathwagon
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Thanks halfwit. Unfortunately, regardless of placement of injection, it still happens. A lot. And I think depth does matter, as sometimes I won't get the full impact of the nerve strike until I'm pretty deep.
I think I've looked at every injection chart and youtube video out there. I think I'm just very nervy (is that a word?), so I just have to suck it up.
I think I've looked at every injection chart and youtube video out there. I think I'm just very nervy (is that a word?), so I just have to suck it up.
halfwit
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Where are you pinning? Are you using the "dart" method, or applying steady and even pressure to inject?
deathwagon
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Mostly quads, sometimes delts. I don't do glutes because my wrists are damaged and I can't get a good angle due to lack of range of motion. I have to inject slow and steady, because that way I can feel when I'm approaching a nerve. I tried the dart method, but that sucked, because I'd go directly into a nerve with no warning.
halfwit
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Damn. Most of the time I hear the complaint about nerves, it is from folks using the dart (I have no idea how folks do it's that way) method, or coming in at an angle.
While there are nerves located in muscle tissue, they're quite different than the ones located in the subcutaneous tissues, which is why I stated that length isn't really much of a concern.
It is possible that you're just very sensitive to any stimuli; so I'd try learning ventroglutes and pecs. They're less dense with nerve dendrites, but require a little patience in learning.
deathwagon
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I'll give those a shot. Thanks half.
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