My New Cycle For Lean Mass Please Critique

[SoHo]

looks like you're doing a recomp cycle and i think test and tren is enough @ 350mg of each a week, and maybe maybe some winny at the end.

if you're looking for a real lean mass/recomp cycle, pick up some HGH (if its pharma grade) and do 3-4iu 5x a week, and extend the cycle to 12 weeks. with GH, if you dont fuck around you can probably end up at 10% bodyfat while staying the bodyweight


also,


1. focus on your diet and training, then secondly on the what you're taking.
2. if you must use tren [ace], pin it every single day. if you're set on that cycle, do 50test/50tren/50mast ED.
3. use 0.5mg cabergoline twice a week for tren induced prolactin buildup.
4. never have a set dose of adex (unless you really really know your body)
5. instead of masteron, definitely winstrol @ 50mg ED for 6 weeks at the end... oral or injectable its up to you. but i still think winny is not necessary with tren unless you're really shredded.

oh and lastly, i would change it to 10 or even 12 weeks regardless of if you use GH or not. you will see great results either way if you're serious

 

[CYBER_COUNTER]

OK really OP , Cyber counter please get back with us.

What is going on and how are you faring ??? Please get back with us

looks like you're doing a recomp cycle and i think test and tren is enough @ 350mg of each a week, and maybe maybe some winny at the end.

if you're looking for a real lean mass/recomp cycle, pick up some HGH (if its pharma grade) and do 3-4iu 5x a week, and extend the cycle to 12 weeks. with GH, if you dont fuck around you can probably end up at 10% bodyfat while staying the bodyweight


also,


1. focus on your diet and training, then secondly on the what you're taking.
2. if you must use tren [ace], pin it every single day. if you're set on that cycle, do 50test/50tren/50mast ED.
3. use 0.5mg cabergoline twice a week for tren induced prolactin buildup.
4. never have a set dose of adex (unless you really really know your body)
5. instead of masteron, definitely winstrol @ 50mg ED for 6 weeks at the end... oral or injectable its up to you. but i still think winny is not necessary with tren unless you're really shredded.

oh and lastly, i would change it to 10 or even 12 weeks regardless of if you use GH or not. you will see great results either way if you're serious

what complications did you experience in that cycle? did you recover properly? what was the cycle?

Hi all,
Sorry for the late answer. I have troubles in my job. Here is my new plan

Week 1-12: Test Propionate …………………………100mg EOD
Week 1-12: Tren Acetate………………………..……100mg EOD
Week 1-12: HCG ……………………………………….500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)
Week 1-12: Salbutamol……………………………..20mg/day (with ketotifen 1mg/day)
Week 1-12: Arimidex ………………………………….0,5mg (E3D maybe?)
Week 1-12: Caber……………………………0,5mg (twice/week)
Week 13: HCG.....................................2000 iu (Monday and Thursday 1000iu x2)
PCT (5 days after last injection):
Week 1-5: Clomid: 100+100+50+50+50 mg
Week 1-5: Evista : 60+60+30+30+30 mg

By the way, i cant find any Nolvadex and i cant buy from internet bcs of my country’s customs. Instead of Nolva, i did add Evista what do you think???
@Milton: my recovery was too slow. Especially my balls size

 

[SoHo]

Hi all,
Sorry for the late answer. I have troubles in my job. Here is my new plan

Week 1-12: Test Propionate ***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;100mg EOD
Week 1-12: Tren Acetate***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;..***8230;***8230;100mg EOD
Week 1-12: HCG ***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;.500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)
Week 1-12: Salbutamol***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;..20mg/day (with ketotifen 1mg/day)
Week 1-12: Arimidex ***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;.0,5mg (E3D maybe?)
Week 1-12: Caber***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;***8230;0,5mg (twice/week)
Week 13: HCG.....................................2000 iu (Monday and Thursday 1000iu x2)
PCT (5 days after last injection):
Week 1-5: Clomid: 100+100+50+50+50 mg
Week 1-5: Evista : 60+60+30+30+30 mg

By the way, i cant find any Nolvadex and i cant buy from internet bcs of my country***8217;s customs. Instead of Nolva, i did add Evista what do you think???
@Milton: my recovery was too slow. Especially my balls size

and your last cycle was only like 700mgs of sust?? 12 weeks of tren ace, with hcg throughout thats way too long for both.. man. you are introducing your body to these new hormones all at once and too fast.

first off do not run tren ace EOD. i've done 100/100 test prop and tren ace EOD for 3 weeks recently i had crazy mood swings. significantly more side effects than if i would have just done 50mg ED.

i dont think you are ready for tren but hey youll probably do it anyway.. plus what you have laid out is like a recomp / almost even a cutting summertime cycle

if you want a CLEAN BULK LEAN MASS CYCLE i would do this..

1-8: 350mg test prop 525mg NPP
6-12: 175mg test prop 350mg NPP
6-12: 50mg winstrol
6-12: HCG 250iu, 2x a week

everything else looks good IMO

 

[oldmusclemike]

Hi all,
Sorry for the late answer. I have troubles in my job. Here is my new plan


CYBER, sorry bout the job problems and quite understandable to get everything straightened out so you can focus your life. Thanks for your update

Looks much better. However I will kinda back Gill on the Tren and say 75 mgs EOD would be a better number. If that goes ok then MAYBE g tp 100mgs.

 

[T-RexAlpha]

Agreed. I don't run arimidex anymore, but if I did, that would be way too much for me. Maybe .25mg E3D is what I'd do. I now run aromasin, and I like 12.5mg E3D. I know most do EOD, but E3D works much better for me. More than that, and my E2 is too low.

Good job bro, Aromsain is way way better

 

[T-RexAlpha]

hi
This will be my 4th cycle (actually 5th. But 2nd was fake gear) but I do not use steroids regularly (maybe once a year for plateau) My goal is lean mass

Ok i will lower the arimidex dose. By the way, do i start to use cabergoline at the begining of the cycle or wait until see some side affects?

How much Caber to use and when?

If I was running Tren or Deca in a cycle I would prefer to use Caber while running any 19-Nor. (tren, deca) They affect the thyroid by lowering it (hypothyroidism) which causes the body to release more prolactin in the blood stream. (note- an overactive thyroid can cause elevated prolactin levels also) Prolactin at high levels has the affect of lowering sex drive and causing erectile dysfunction. We call it deca or fina dick. Tren is also a Progestin, it bonds to the receptor of the female sex hormone Progesterone. Which is responsible for preparing the body for milk production. I.E. By raising prolactin.

So in order to avoid all that. Its best to run Caber from the very beginning of the cycle. I even prefer to run it into PCT for an extra boost.

STARTING DOSE

Beginning dose of Caber for use on cycle would be .25mg taken twice a week. For a total of .50 mg a week. Notice the point in front of the 25. Its not 25mg!! Its .25mg

This dose is usually enough for an 8 week Tren cycle. If your prone to sides, running deca/tren E, or just running the Tren A longer. Then take the .50 mg/per week for 4 weeks and then bump it up another .25mg a week. For a total of .75mg per week. If sides from the gear are very bad, you can even bump it up to a total of 1mg a week. You can continue to up your dose (only if your experiencing sides from Tren/Deca) of the Caber every 4 weeks until you have reached a maximum dose of 1mg twice a week or 2mg per week. But there is no reason to go no where near that high. If your still experiencing sides at 1mg/per week then your Caber is bunk or there is more serious underlying causes at work.