My next cycle. Critique and suggestions please

Moose_51

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Hey guys I'm new so forgive me I'm new at this. I'm about to start on a new cycle and just looking to get some advice or suggestions. I am 27 5'9" 245ish naturally a big strong guy but got that stubborn belly fat. I try to be at the gym 5 days a week school and work permitting. I'll admit diet is not the best but getting that in check. What I plan on running:

Tren ace 100 mg
Winstrol 100mg
EQ 300mg

I plan on taking a shot every day rotating each so pretty much each shot will be given every third day. I plan on starting EQ for 12 weeks since it seems to take a little longer to kick in. After the fourth week I will start the tren and win. Tren for 4 weeks (can go to 8) and Win for 8 weeks (can go a little longer if suggested). This is about my 4th cycle mostly done EQ and win. Did 2 weeks of test and Decca but got too big with just the two weeks. Would have loved to see what longer would have done but too obvious. And did a similar cycle anove with the tren once before. I have test e 300mg I will do a Little maintanencr with but I don't have much of it to go around. On cycle I was thinking caber and HCG. So here is my first question. What are appropriate dosages for the caber and HCG? Also do I need to add an AI like letro? And next what about pct? Is nolva ok stand alone? Should I add caber? Also how long should I run pct? Also any natty test booster good for pct like DAA maybe? I've always been unsure about my pct and this may be my last go at it and I wanna try to be sure I get it right.

Thanks
 
To be honest, i stopped reading after i saw your proposed cycle. What is your bf% and how long you been training? terrible cycle idea.
 
Thanks traps. I'm right about the 20% range on body fat. I've lifted on and off since jr high years. Got out of it around 21 due to work and school and got back in at 23
 
How long have you been back in the gym and how old are you now? Previous cycles? And you really need to get that bf down to at least 15% before starting.
 
Your not ready to cycle bro...

You should work on your diet/training and get down to at least 15%. Test is the base of all cycles and you mentioned that you have very little. W/O enough Test, the Tren will mess you up severely. Do you realize that Winny will dry up your joints?

You need to read all the stickies and learn everything that you can about AAS. You don't even have a PCT plan or know about AI's for goodness sake.
 
I know a little about on cycle AI's and pct but not to the extent as you guys. Just begginer's knowledge. I have enough test to match the dose of tren. Per week. I am going to wait like you guys say and try to shed a few more pounds before cycling. Traps I've been back in the gym now for about 3 years now.
 
Well that's good. Work on your diet and do some more research in the meantime. And I wouldn't be too concerned w the tren right now. When you're ready, a test only cycle will be your best bet.
 
I take caber at .5mg e3d when running tren or deca. I prefer aromasin as an ai.

You only did 2 weeks of test and deca?
 
Traps I'm really doing the AAS to help cut. I understand the importance of test and I knew win cuts a lot of water so do you think it can have a role when I get ready to go?

And yes metal head only 2 weeks test e 300. And Decca 300 pretty sure it was. Gained close to 25 lbs if I'm lying I'm dying.
 
Definitely understand that tebonexl. Eating cleaner and trying to cut some calories. Also doing more cardio and HIT training.
 
Traps I'm really doing the AAS to help cut. I understand the importance of test and I knew win cuts a lot of water so do you think it can have a role when I get ready to go?

And yes metal head only 2 weeks test e 300. And Decca 300 pretty sure it was. Gained close to 25 lbs if I'm lying I'm dying.

You gained 25lbs on 2 weeks of Test and Deca?...

If you're goal is to lose weight, AAS is not the answer. If your diet isn't in check, it doesn't matter if your cutting or bulking, you're not going to acheive your goals. Diet is everything.
 
Traps I'm really doing the AAS to help cut. I understand the importance of test and I knew win cuts a lot of water so do you think it can have a role when I get ready to go?

And yes metal head only 2 weeks test e 300. And Decca 300 pretty sure it was. Gained close to 25 lbs if I'm lying I'm dying.

Sounds like a lot of water bud
 
Traps I'm really doing the AAS to help cut. I understand the importance of test and I knew win cuts a lot of water so do you think it can have a role when I get ready to go?

And yes metal head only 2 weeks test e 300. And Decca 300 pretty sure it was. Gained close to 25 lbs if I'm lying I'm dying.

wow, is that even possible??
 
Traps I'm really doing the AAS to help cut. I understand the importance of test and I knew win cuts a lot of water so do you think it can have a role when I get ready to go?

And yes metal head only 2 weeks test e 300. And Decca 300 pretty sure it was. Gained close to 25 lbs if I'm lying I'm dying.

That's pretty far fetched!
 
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