My Next cycle

[JamieDraper]

Hello everyone , my stats.

age : 24
training : 3 years
height:6 foot 3
weight: 18.1 stone
body-fat: (duno about 18%)

this is my second cycle, diet is good for mass.

test prop 100mg/1ml , week 1-5 to jump start cycle , 400mg a week split M/W/F .

deca 250mg/1ml week 1-14 375mg once a week for strong joints

test E week 3-14 500mg twice a week T/TH

HCG week 1-14 500ui twice a week

post cycle therapy (pct) starting at week 17 until I feel ok
clomid 50,40,30,20,20,20

Thanks for any input

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

why are you waiting til week 3 to start the test e?

 

[JamieDraper]

I thought as test E takes about 3-4 weeks to kick in , by the time it just kicks in i would have stopped the test P and just let test E take over.

Should I just start it from week 1 ?

Thanks for your reply

** edit , looks like I miss timed it anyways , just start it from week 2 , but thinking about it , mase as well start from week1 ?

 

[Biggin]

Just start everything at week 1.

 

[JamieDraper]

Thanks Biggin , does everything else look good to you ?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I understand what you are trying to do, although if you want to come off the prop when the test e kicks in you need to pin it right from the start of cycle. If you do it the way you planned you will have a big lul in action. meaning if you start test e at week 3 it will prolly not be in fuul effect til week 8.

1-5 prop
1-14 test e
1-12 deca
1-16 hcg (you can take a 2 week break of hcg somewhere in the middle)
17-20 post cycle therapy (pct)
stop the HCG 4 days before post cycle therapy (pct)

the reason why deca should be stopped before test is because you should wait 3 weeks for post cycle therapy (pct) when coming off deca. It is better to come down from test than deca.

Also if you want to run the prop when you stop pinning test e you can do this. it will be a bridge to post cycle therapy (pct). stop the prop when you stop HCG.

 

[JamieDraper]

newbie23 nice one , thanks , what would you suggest for the clomid dose ? do you think 50,40,30,20 is gtg ?

Thanks for all your input mate.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

since you are taking hcg-50mg ED for 4 weeks should be fine-no need to lower the dosage. never exceed 100 mg ED for clomid.

Also I have been reading a lot about test boosters during post cycle therapy (pct). the reason for this is cause post cycle therapy (pct) is a bitch i had to learn the hard way-I thought i knew what it was all about til i experienced it myself. you will want a supp to give you pumps and energy during this time. I have read good things about LG t911

 

[Biggin]

Good advice newbie, He's got all the info he needs.

 

[JamieDraper]

thanks newbie23 ,LG t911 i will do some research on it , thanks , thanks also Biggin for replying.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

thanks bro-my test will be done thur!

 

[JMC]

Great advice

What about Aromasin 12.5mg WK 1-PCT

Can you obtain that where your from JD??

 

[JamieDraper]

JMC , I could prolly get it of the net , but I have nolva if needed just in case I get gyno. I will do some more research into Aromasin , would you use that over nolva ?

Thanks for replying

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

you really need to run aromasin because of your bf%. compound name is exemestane.

researchstop dot com

run it like JMC said

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

also i think Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be ran for at least a week into PCT

 

[JamieDraper]

Thanks guys , I'll get some.

 

[JamieDraper]

newbie23, Thanks , will run it 2 weeks ... ( 1 week into PCT) and 1 week during.

 

[JMC]

newbie23, Thanks , will run it 2 weeks ... ( 1 week into post cycle therapy (pct)) and 1 week during.

It is a key ingredient in a cycle IMO

The bottle I have is 25mg/ml 60ml

@ 12.5mg ED for 17.5wks It just makes it.

That's 12wk cycle 2wks before post cycle therapy (pct) and 4wks post cycle therapy (pct)

My next cycle and EVERY cycle, Ill buy enough to do12.5mg ED and 25mg ED for the entire time I'm on post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[JMC]

I understand what you are trying to do, although if you want to come off the prop when the test e kicks in you need to pin it right from the start of cycle. If you do it the way you planned you will have a big lul in action. meaning if you start test e at week 3 it will prolly not be in fuul effect til week 8.

1-5 prop
1-14 test e
1-12 deca
1-16 hcg (you can take a 2 week break of hcg somewhere in the middle)
17-20 post cycle therapy (pct)
stop the HCG 4 days before post cycle therapy (pct)

the reason why deca should be stopped before test is because you should wait 3 weeks for post cycle therapy (pct) when coming off deca. It is better to come down from test than deca.

Also if you want to run the prop when you stop pinning test e you can do this. it will be a bridge to post cycle therapy (pct). stop the prop when you stop HCG.

The 2 week break with the HCG?? Because of the long cycle??

What's you opinion on the dose of HCG

500iu's for a light cycle 1000iu's for a heavy cycle EW ???

Last 2 injections before post cycle therapy (pct) being @ 1500iu's??

I read people using the same batch for 8 wks, refrigerated of course...

 

[JamieDraper]

JMC , I might do the same with with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) , run the way u do , thanks man , as for HCG am sorta following SWALE PCT protocol.