My Very First Cycle! Deca 300 & Sutanon 250.

[Dalais]

Hi Guys ,

Bassically this is my first cycle of Anabolic Steroids and i'd just like peoples feedback, opinions, thoughts etc.

Im taking Deca 300 & Sustan 250 both by Global Anabolics.

Stats:
Age: 21
Height: 5 7"
Weight: 78.8kg (173lbs)
Bodyfat: 25%

I had my first shot on Tues 12/10/2010. Combining 1ml of each in same needle and planning to inject every monday for the next 9 weeks so in total a 10 week cycle.

For during the cycle im currently taking exemestane 25mg once a day, and will continue to do so on my post cycle therapy (pct). Im taking it to avoid estrogen related side effects from aromitization all together on my entire cycle, (gyno, water retention, fat gain etc.) and choose it instead of nolvadex & other AI's due to its potency, low side effects and other beneficial factors. Also included in is Cycle assist by Competitive Edge Labs.

My main Goal is to Gain Mass, Strength and lose Body Fat. I can easily put on size but ussually find it very hard to get my bodyfat down. I will be going to the gym 6 days a week with a split routine doing at least 30-45min cardio 3 times a week after the muscle workouts. As I am from Australia, steroids here a extremely expensive along with other things on my cycle so i wana get the most out of it as i can! Every set done I ussually go 1-2 reps past failure (with the help of partner of course). My training will be very intense but I will also becareful as to not overtrain too .

I will be consuming 50g of protein after workouts (Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey). Having also an extra 25g shake a day. My diet will be low fat high protein mid carb (mostly use carbs before workout). Will consume nil or low carbs as possible at Night while I am not active.

Okay moving onto PCT...
Ill be using clomid and exemestane. Now this is where i wanted some help. Everyone has so many different opinions on the use of it and i wanted some good advice! Some people say 1st day take 300mg of clomid, 2-12 Take 100mg, then after 50mg. But I wana make sure I keep as much gains as possible and do f*ck myself up either.

So hit me up with any criticism, advice or feedback id appreciate it. Thank you

 

[RA64]

First off your Test dose needs to be higher than you Deca dose.

INHO you won't see much from this cycle, it's just too litte for too short of time.

Get some more gear.

 

[Teutonic]

My twin bro from another mo is correct..if your gonna run this..12 weeks minimum as deca is so slow....
1 st cycle..
test e c or sust..500 a week for 12 weeks..
Aromasine or it s equivalent on stand by..
chlomid for pct..5 mg s a day for 28 days..
bring that fat down some or your flirting with more pronounced estro sides...
however..since your committed..get more test..double it...add 4 weeks..imo.

 

[AllAmer]

You are a little too young for AAS. Also you are little too high on bodyfat. Both could be bad later down the road in many different ways. But im sure you are dead set on cycling so up the test to 500mg/week and the deca to 400. Watch for gyno during your cycle seeing as your body fat being so high.

 

[djm6464]

You are a little too young for AAS. Also you are little too high on bodyfat. Both could be bad later down the road in many different ways. But im sure you are dead set on cycling so up the test to 500mg/week and the deca to 400. Watch for gyno during your cycle seeing as your body fat being so high.

^^this......looks like you have mediocre-poor results so far naturally and are looking for a quick fix.....good luck

 

[Dalais]

The reading i got for my body fat percentage i dont think is correct to me i seem more slim then 25% but according to the electronic scales i am... I will be def workin on cardio, thinkin of keepin my heart rate between 120-140? To just stay in fat burning range for 45 min 3-4 times a week. Gear wise... I live in aus man i know watchu mean its just u cant pick n choose as much as u can in the US i fully understand wat ur saying though. Im def gona give it my all n i did do my research be4 beginning this cycle n im extremely dedicated. Post pics in 9 weeks? Wish me luck. Thanks =)

 

[Machine5150]

The reading i got for my body fat percentage i dont think is correct to me i seem more slim then 25% but according to the electronic scales i am... I will be def workin on cardio, thinkin of keepin my heart rate between 120-140? To just stay in fat burning range for 45 min 3-4 times a week. Gear wise... I live in aus man i know watchu mean its just u cant pick n choose as much as u can in the US i fully understand wat ur saying though. Im def gona give it my all n i did do my research be4 beginning this cycle n im extremely dedicated. Post pics in 9 weeks? Wish me luck. Thanks =)

you are too young really.. but now it is too late so you might as well run it out.. double the test to 500mg a week at the bare minimum. i did 10 week cycle at your age, of 300mg deca and 600mg of test and gained 25lb and kept 20 of it... it was my first cycle.

Those scales are absolute garbage.. put up some pics of yourself and we can tell you where u r at..

if you live in Aus, go to thailand, its right around the corner from you.. tape it around your leg or leave it in your pocket and come back through with it..

 

[Irentat]

I agree with those on here about you being young to start AAS but that being said, probably won't take the advice...because you are young.

My advice would be to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) onhand and take it from day one of the cycle to eliminate any buildup of estrogen that is inevitable with test and Deca. Being 21, your plates may not be closed and you would then have a chance to grow a bit more. The estrogen will close those off quick. Bottom line, keep estrogen way down.

As a reference, worked off of 250/400 test/deca for a long cycle and it was great. No deca dick. However, note my goals were different from your and I could have cared less about growing big. I did, that is for sure, and my strength was through the roof but I did not grow like you can with the additional test everyone is advising.

 

[Dalais]

I agree with those on here about you being young to start AAS but that being said, probably won't take the advice...because you are young.

My advice would be to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) onhand and take it from day one of the cycle to eliminate any buildup of estrogen that is inevitable with test and Deca. Being 21, your plates may not be closed and you would then have a chance to grow a bit more. The estrogen will close those off quick. Bottom line, keep estrogen way down.

As a reference, worked off of 250/400 test/deca for a long cycle and it was great. No deca dick. However, note my goals were different from your and I could have cared less about growing big. I did, that is for sure, and my strength was through the roof but I did not grow like you can with the additional test everyone is advising.

Hey dude,

thanks for the advice, i have been taking exemestane (aromasin) from day 1 n will do so through my post cycle therapy (pct) so estrogen will not be an issue. Also got clomid on hand for post cycle therapy (pct). Also note been training since i was 16 n i got diet packed down n i def didnt come into this without knowing what i was doin. I spent hours n hours researching be4 i even considered it, unlike sum people who just inject den wonder wats gona happen? But thanks u guys all been helpful. I will post be4 n afta pics when i can =)

 

[gkixxerr]

Hey dude,

thanks for the advice, i have been taking exemestane (aromasin) from day 1 n will do so through my post cycle therapy (pct) so estrogen will not be an issue. Also got clomid on hand for post cycle therapy (pct). Also note been training since i was 16 n i got diet packed down n i def didnt come into this without knowing what i was doin. I spent hours n hours researching be4 i even considered it, unlike sum people who just inject den wonder wats gona happen? But thanks u guys all been helpful. I will post be4 n afta pics when i can =)

I don't know how long you've been using, but have you noticed any strength increases so far? Just curious.

 

[Irentat]

Hey dude,

thanks for the advice, i have been taking exemestane (aromasin) from day 1 n will do so through my post cycle therapy (pct) so estrogen will not be an issue. Also got clomid on hand for post cycle therapy (pct). Also note been training since i was 16 n i got diet packed down n i def didnt come into this without knowing what i was doin. I spent hours n hours researching be4 i even considered it, unlike sum people who just inject den wonder wats gona happen? But thanks u guys all been helpful. I will post be4 n afta pics when i can =)

Since you have researched, are you going to be consistently getting bloodwork? Need to know what is going on. While you are at it, get an x-ray and find out where your plates are at.

FYI, there was a study done on rats where they were given only Letro from puberty. The rats grew much larger in height and weight compared to control. Reason: they had no estrogen in their bodies so the body could keep growing longer.

 

[pandawithcancer]

Hey dude,

thanks for the advice, i have been taking exemestane (aromasin) from day 1 n will do so through my post cycle therapy (pct) so estrogen will not be an issue. Also got clomid on hand for post cycle therapy (pct). Also note been training since i was 16 n i got diet packed down n i def didnt come into this without knowing what i was doin. I spent hours n hours researching be4 i even considered it, unlike sum people who just inject den wonder wats gona happen? But thanks u guys all been helpful. I will post be4 n afta pics when i can =)

Well..you probably should've researched your dosages a littler more

 

[RJ]

21 years old. FAT. and 25mg of Aromasin a day.

Nice work champ.

 

[djm6464]

21 years old. FAT. and 25mg of Aromasin a day.

Nice work champ.

x2, after some deca at 25%bf, he should be peeled n contest ready!