Nandrolone decanoate and stanazolol cycle - aromatase and atropy minimizing

White_Man

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This is my very first cycle and I intend to use nandrolone decanoate for it. I know it's a bad choice to use nandrolone for the first cycle as it causes your penis to act like a corpse (suppressed libido) and difficult recovery because it stays in the body for a long time (plus detect-ability of steroid use). As I'm not into any sports I don't give a heck about detectability of the steroids. But I'm concerned about other things like testicular atrophy and "deca dick".
I want to bulk the muscles with minimum water retention as I want quality muscles. And need to protect my liver and kidneys etc.

My weight is about 65kgs , I'm about 5'-9" tall, I intend to do all the lab tests to know my hormone levels free and total testosterone ALT FSH etc etc.

My planned cycle is as follows. And I intend to stack two substances for optimum results

Nandrolone decanoate 400mg per week x 8 weeks
Stanozolol 50 mg per day x 8 weeks

PCT

Day 1 --- 150 MG Clomid + 60 MG Nolvadex
Day 2-10 ---100 MG Clomid +40 MG Nolvadex
Day 10-20 --- 50 MG Clomid+ 20 MG Nolvadex
HCG 2000iu Per week x 3 weeks

I have few questions.

1. Do I need any aromatase inhibitor or prolactin antagonize like Pramipexole with nandrolone decanoate? or nandrolone doesn't need such? Although, nandrolone can't aromatase, it still associated with prolactin I guess which ultimately cause bitch tits (gynocosmatia, development of breast tissue), If so, what should I use in which dose?

2. I'm married and I need to have a sex life during the cycle. How to avoid my penis become a corpse during the cycle and keep the libido? by using libido enhanser like Mesterolone? But I heard it's so bad for hair loss is there any other substitute?
and any way to keep the penis get erected on cycle? (not through cialis though, I mean keep the penis alive) such as using a continues low dose of HCG? will HCG do any good during cycle? I'm using it for PCT but will it be good for on cycle to keep penis up and minimize testicular atrophy? or any other medicine to get the job done?

3. what are the effective liver protectants to use for Stanozolol on cycle?

4. Do you have any other alternative stacking profiles? which are mild on my liver, kidneys etc?
 
you need to read up in beginners cycle thread stickies at the top of the forum.
Deca only cycle is not good, and hcg is not for pct and it will sure as hell be good for a person during a cycle.
 
Welcome! why do you intend to use deca? first cycle should always be Test, test C is my choice, some hcg thrown in and a solid ai. 12 weeks with 4 week pct. get bloodworks done, before, during and after.
 
so you want to run deca and winny without test? and this is your first cycle?

how old are you my man?
 
fyi to answer question 3.. running deca and winny without test you can say bye bye to your sex life.

if you decide to go ahead with that mistake, be ready to explain to the wife why she's not waking the little fella up lol...



i highly recommend you read my beg guide to steroids and proper nutrition.. its a sticky..
 
you need to read up in beginners cycle thread stickies at the top of the forum.
Deca only cycle is not good, and hcg is not for pct and it will sure as hell be good for a person during a cycle.

Thank you I'll read them, so what should I stack in addition to nandrolone, if it's not good alone?
 
Welcome! why do you intend to use deca? first cycle should always be Test, test C is my choice, some hcg thrown in and a solid ai. 12 weeks with 4 week pct. get bloodworks done, before, during and after.

As I know testosterone does not give you more muscle mass as nandrolone that's the main reason, and that's the main reason to stack it with stanazolol as well, so the effects will be optimum plus nandrolone is very mild on liver and kidneys so I'll not abuse my organs. I don't want to go to a contest etc, but still I don't want to build my muscles for my life time with steroids (I'll maintain those though) , so, I want to go for about 3 cycles of steroids for my life time. So, I'm looking for more potent substances as I will never do like 20 cycles. So, I'm hesitant to do 20 cycles of testosterone where I can do 3 cycles of nandrolone and get the same results. So, I wanted to use nandrolone. Please give your comments why I should use testosterone instead of nandrolone so I can get a clear picture. Please make necessary amendments to my plan, and post it here with dosages. Thanks
 
so you want to run deca and winny without test? and this is your first cycle?

how old are you my man?

Thank you for the reply. Please make necessary changes to my plan and post it here with dosages. I don't want to do the exact plan of my own, that's why I posted this thread to get comments about amendments which I should make for my plan. Do you think testosterone should be added to the my plan? Please provide dosages.

I'm 30+
 
fyi to answer question 3.. running deca and winny without test you can say bye bye to your sex life.

if you decide to go ahead with that mistake, be ready to explain to the wife why she's not waking the little fella up lol...

i highly recommend you read my beg guide to steroids and proper nutrition.. its a sticky..

lol .. no, I'm not strict of my plan. I will change my plan according to your comments and recommendations. please make changes, additions, deletions to my plan and post it here again. Many thanks

sure, I will read it.
 
As I know testosterone does not give you more muscle mass as nandrolone that's the main reason, and that's the main reason to stack it with stanazolol as well, so the effects will be optimum plus nandrolone is very mild on liver and kidneys so I'll not abuse my organs. I don't want to go to a contest etc, but still I don't want to build my muscles for my life time with steroids (I'll maintain those though) , so, I want to go for about 3 cycles of steroids for my life time. So, I'm looking for more potent substances as I will never do like 20 cycles. So, I'm hesitant to do 20 cycles of testosterone where I can do 3 cycles of nandrolone and get the same results. So, I wanted to use nandrolone. Please give your comments why I should use testosterone instead of nandrolone so I can get a clear picture. Please make necessary amendments to my plan, and post it here with dosages. Thanks

yor going to have one heck of a time keeping your levels in check with all those compounds. sustanon alone is 5 diferent types of test which is very hard to monitor especially when your starting out with aas and learning the ins and outs and learning how it affects your body. stop trying to do it all at once,and do it the rigt way View attachment 567097 pic info credit goes to 3J.
 
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this! and yes that pic is from my article on begginers guide to steroids and nutrition. thats how you run a cycle. the fact that you want to run deca and winny as a cycle tells me youre clueless on the subject and did some vague research on some compounds that you really dont understand. i know i sound harsh, but please believe that i have your best in mind. esp when it comes to your health. winny is a horrible compound.. it drys your joints and causes MPB. deca will shut down your natty test levels very very quicky and hard, being a 19-nor. youll have to trust and believe your safest and most optimal option for cycle number 1 is whats described in the pic
yor going to have one heck of a time keeping your levels in check with all those compounds. sustanon alone is 5 diferent types of test which is very hard to monitor especially when your starting out with aas and learning the ins and outs and learning how it affects your body. stop trying to do it all at once,and do it the rigt way View attachment 567097 pic info goes to 3J.
 
this! and yes that pic is from my article on begginers guide to steroids and nutrition. thats how you run a cycle. the fact that you want to run deca and winny as a cycle tells me youre clueless on the subject and did some vague research on some compounds that you really dont understand. i know i sound harsh, but please believe that i have your best in mind. esp when it comes to your health. winny is a horrible compound.. it drys your joints and causes MPB. deca will shut down your natty test levels very very quicky and hard, being a 19-nor. youll have to trust and believe your safest and most optimal option for cycle number 1 is whats described in the pic

Thank you for the cycle plan. Can you explain why does HCG is not included in PCT?
and testosterone converts to DHT and that causes MPB right. So, are you saying that stanazolol is more hard on scalp than testosterone?
since we use nandrolone, isn't that cures the drying joints which is caused by stamazolol as nandrolone kind of lubricating joints?
 
Thank you for the reply. Please do necessary alterations to the plan adding other substances or removing where necessary and post it here.

Alterations would be to completely throw away this idea and never think for one second that this sould be a good plan ever!
Read the beginner cycle stickys. You need test in every cycle. Now it's your job to learn why before you make an incredible mistake!
 
Alterations would be to completely throw away this idea and never think for one second that this sould be a good plan ever!
Read the beginner cycle stickys. You need test in every cycle. Now it's your job to learn why before you make an incredible mistake!

thanks ... sure I will
 
this! and yes that pic is from my article on begginers guide to steroids and nutrition. thats how you run a cycle. the fact that you want to run deca and winny as a cycle tells me youre clueless on the subject and did some vague research on some compounds that you really dont understand. i know i sound harsh, but please believe that i have your best in mind. esp when it comes to your health. winny is a horrible compound.. it drys your joints and causes MPB. deca will shut down your natty test levels very very quicky and hard, being a 19-nor. youll have to trust and believe your safest and most optimal option for cycle number 1 is whats described in the pic

may I know the link for the full article? I can't find it here https://steroidology.com/forum/new-members-click-here/
 
Test, AI, HCG and proper timing and dosage for PCT. Pre cycle labs to establish natural levels. Labs during to check everything is an excellent idea and labs again after PCT to check recovery. If you don't grow the problem will be your diet, training or lifestyle. Steroids are that simple yet it's also very complex when you branch out.
 
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Your plan is straight up horrible. Listen to these guys and do the basic test only cycle, and pay attention to the things like AI and PCT doses & timing. That knowledge will be a great asset for any future cycles.
 
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