Natural Steroids?

[AnonEagle]

Bro a kg of dbol cost less than $500. This stuff cost around $1500.

M 1-t cost $2500 a KG when it was still legal and a dbol was less than a kg $200.

If you really had any knowledge of Pharmaceutical costs this might be interesting.

There are plenty of studies I have agree to keep them under wraps. After M1t was released it was knocked off and then outlawed in less than a year.

ok well first off i apologize for not having the breadth of knowledge you do. all i had to go for pricing was what my source quoted me. and this was $150 for 100dbol @ 20mg. its very possible that this is very high, but even so, while there is no strength that i can see on their "D-anobal", it is at worst roughly similar in price to what a small time person can get dbol for(probably the same market that Juice Pump caters to)

EITHER WAY though... i hope we can agree that pricing is not a significant factor for most when planning a cycle, when it comes to things so pertinent to one's health.

While I understand the desire to keep details under wraps to keep it around, is there any way one can see these studies, and/or see any discussion of these products? What are the side-effects? Is it biologically doing the same thing as dianabol? What makes it stronger? etc etc... these are questions that i'm sure many potential customers have of any foreign chemical that one might injest

i'm sure you can understand the hesitance of someone to put something into their body just off the testimonial of any one person, even if they are the moderator of a great forum

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

why do i never see anyone's cycles on this site containing such a miracle product?

You do every cycle listed. Changing 1 carbon molecule changes the compound. Part of the reason your here is because some very smart chemist started doing this years ago for professional athletes. Balco Bob for one. It was why steroids got some much media. They were unable to test for them that didn't know what was being used but they knew something was being used.

I understand your reluctance. The truth is there are thing around that would blow your mind.
Most of them just has long digits as names. Most steroids were developed in the 1950. Think of have far things come in 60 years.

 

[trtgiant]

First off, do a google search of the names of the products first, not just the t-tren, but the long chemical name on the actual bottle...

please post if you can figure out what all these chemical names are, because I sure can't

 

[AnonEagle]

First off, do a google search of the names of the products first, not just the t-tren, but the long chemical name on the actual bottle...

please post if you can figure out what all these chemical names are, because I sure can't

good idea but you're right.. turned up nothing useful..

@ DPR- i have no doubt that any of what you just said is true, but do the companies that manufacture such new products not want the word spread of them?
i would be very interested in learning about new advancements in steroids, as i'm sure many others would, and would probably use them if i saw something conclusive about the side effects of said meds. is there anywhere someone like myself one can turn to find that info out?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

You are start to see some on it with sarms and igf and other peptides. These are so many compounds out there that are staying in private hands drew to the recent past. I just know about these because I reviewed them. I was privi to some of these things back in the golden age.

Things used to be like flight club. .....the club got too big and the idiot kids didn't get it and fucked it up for everyone. Sadly things will never be as they were. So here we are.

 

[surfdog]

so would it be safe to say you could take d-anabol stacked with test for the first 4 weeks of ur cycle if you wanted with less side effects?

 

[AnonEagle]

so would it be safe to say you could take d-anabol stacked with test for the first 4 weeks of ur cycle if you wanted with less side effects?

are you sure its necessarily true that it has less sides? just because it is legal doesn't necessarily mean that, and it seems like something stronger than dbol could be harsher.. no way to really know though

 

[surfdog]

I guess I should be more clear, really just the bloat. dbol made me bloated

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Yes you can take it with less sides and you will be happy. You will see increased gains over using dbol. It increases the syntheses of protein and conversion to glycogen more efficiently. It also increases insulin sensitivity.

 

[AnonEagle]

how about its effects on your liver, is it still equally toxic? how about its effect on HPTA function? is there any chance i could see a write up or study on this chem-you've made me very interested in its potential? feel free to PM me if thats your shit

 

[Mcdunn]

All i know is that if DPR says that he has used it and has seen the studies, id trust him... so far he has yet to steer me wrong.

 

[swolemc]

someone guinea up and try them..

 

[AnonEagle]

All i know is that if DPR says that he has used it and has seen the studies, id trust him... so far he has yet to steer me wrong.

even though you are probably right, DPR does know his shit, i'd personally still rather know what i'm really getting into with side effects and all. i would have no problem running them as a kickstart for my next cycle if I knew what the side effects were and what to look for etc etc..

 

[Mcdunn]

If only it was longer than 5 weeks since i have been on then yeah i would guinnea up and try it... Especially since they say you dont lose gains... hell ill run this alone next time and see what happens... although, bc im not an idiot, ill probably run some test with it too..

 

[iliftalot]

do they shut your boys down is all i wanna know....

 

[Ythrashin]

I would never try those products. I'll stick with "real" AAS that have been tried, tested and we all know work.

 

[Cheappinz]

Isn't IGF a controlled substance now? Is that one still legal to sell?

Do you know if the feds have put their two cents in on these orals? Just wondering if they have already been looked over and gotten the stamp of approval or maybe just havent been scrutinized yet..

 

[stevonov]

Yes you can take it with less sides and you will be happy. You will see increased gains over using dbol. It increases the syntheses of protein and conversion to glycogen more efficiently. It also increases insulin sensitivity.

so should one get this stuff or go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with the sponsor on here?

 

[Cheappinz]

there are a lot of chemicals I'd like to research just to know what's going on. there are so many options these days.