Need help with ai's and post cycle therapy (pct) first test E cycle

[lincoln9]

Need help with ai's and pct first test E cycle

I have not started this cycle yet, I'm am still putting all the ingredients together. I am trying to put together a perfect first time cycle with Test E as the only compound. I want as few sides as possible and want to keep my gains to a max after post cycle therapy (pct).

I have a few questions. About Arimidex, HCG and Finasteride when to take them and how long? But look at the plan below first.

Should a 12 week Test E cycle look like this?

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12
finastride 1mg eod weeks 1 to 12
nizorol 2% ed weeks 1 to 12

HCG 250iu's e4d should I start this week 4 should it stop and start again or go right thru to week 14 1 week prior of pct?

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Letrozole on hand/ in case of gyno
Accutane on hand/ in case of out of control acne

Can the arimidex, finastride and nizorol be used past week 12 or even until the end of pct?

Stats
36
5'9
196LB
15 years training on and off last 2 years have been training.
BF 15%
The goal is bulking and strength right now.


Please feel free to add things or recommend changes to this. I'm not worried about the cost I want the safest cycle put together, before I start.

Thanks, to anybody willing to help.

 

[baldie99]

just about the finesteride.....I would take at least 1mg a day if not more, some say more like 2mg a day while on juice.
nizoral the shampoo? if yes, then you can use it as long as you want, but I wouldn't use it everyday, every 2-3 days....but use a good conditioner after because it will dry out your scalp.

 

[lincoln9]

Can I take the finastride right thru to the end of the cycle including the pct?

Do you have any ideas how I would use the hcg with this cycle?

 

[baldie99]

never used hcg personally...umm i might stop the finesteride a week into the post cycle therapy (pct) just because you could probably use some DHT.

 

[lincoln9]

Here is my diet

Meal 1
6:30am 1 scoop of Isolate protein with 8 oz water= 22g protein Allmax Isokool iced tea

Meal 2
9:00am 1 cup of oats mixed with Allmax chocolate whey= 25g protein and 2 Tbsp peanut butter
Animal pak vitamins
1cup of orange juice not sweetened
1 cup of 1% milk
Glucosamine 1 pill

Meal 3
12:00am 1.5 cups of brown rice and wild rice mixed
1 can of tuna
2 scoops of whey depot anabolic milk with 8oz milk =38g protein
DHA 1 pill 100mg fish oil

Meal 4
3:00pm Whey depot Muscle mass 3 scoops 53g protein and 82g carbs plus 12oz milk this is about 900cal
5 grams Creatine Ethyl Ester

Meal 5
5:30pm
1 cup mixed rice brown and wild
30g chicken breast
Glucosamine 1 pill

Meal 6
8:30pm
8-10oz lean steak
3 potatoes and salad
Glucosamine 1 pill
DHA 1 pill

ZMA 1 hour before bed
21g Whey depot Micellar Casein right at bed

This is between 4000 to 4500 cals

 

[baldie99]

that whey depot muscle mass.....have you checked how many grams of those carbs are sugar. never used it personally, but you have to watch out for those mass gainers, some have alotta useless sugar

 

[lincoln9]

It says 26g sugar for 3 scoops. I don't drink it every day just when I feel I need it. Mostly on workout days which is 4 days per week.

 

[lincoln9]

This is my new plan, should there be any other changes?
I have no budget on this, if you pro's out there could give me any advice on the best possible Test E cycle with ai's and pct I would really appreciate it.

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12
finastride 2mg ed weeks 1 to 15
nizorol 2% eod weeks 1 to 12
No hcg


PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[lincoln9]

This is the changes so far.

Should I take hcg with this cycle or drop it?

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12
finastride 2mg ed weeks 1 to 15
nizorol 2% ed weeks 1 to 12

hcg? yes, no, when and how much?

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

should I add anything to this or will this be a nice safe cycle. I have no budget for this and want it as perfect as I can get it.

 

[zephyrdaz]

Should I take hcg with this cycle or drop it?

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12
finastride 2mg ed weeks 1 to 15
nizorol 2% ed weeks 1 to 12

hcg? yes, no, when and how much?

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

should I add anything to this or will this be a nice safe cycle. I have no budget for this and want it as perfect as I can get it.

Use the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). Start a week or so in to your cycle. Use 250iu's every 4 days and stop a week before PCT

 

[lincoln9]

I have been recommended on a different board to use 500 iu of hcg e4d. Would you agree with that?

I was also recommended to use just clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) if I use hcg in the cycle.

I had another responce that I should aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct).

What would you go with?

 

[zephyrdaz]

I have been recommended on a different board to use 500 iu of hcg e4d. Would you agree with that?

I was also recommended to use just clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) if I use hcg in the cycle.

I had another responce that I should aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct).

What would you go with?

You don't need 500iu's, do 250iu's E4D. Nothing wrong with just using just Clomid in your post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[macro]

such low dose dex is just going to suppress e1 and mildly at that.

aromasin is a far better choice, particularly with your age and bodyfat percent. If you have any estrogenic fat pattern evident, definitely go with aromasin/exemestane.

you finasteride dose is fine, more than that may hurt gains (DHT is a potent actor on the CNS) and if you are gym prone cutting DHT increases the risk.

with that dose of test only, just run a bit of HCG mid cycle. you dont need that much and certainly not that often. in truth, if not for you age, would say you are being a bit rediculos with the HCG.

clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) is the way to go

 

[lincoln9]

Well what would the correct dose of aromasin be to run through out the cycle? weeks 1 to 12? ed mg? eod mg?

With the hcg would you recommend something like weeks 4 to 6 250iu e4d?

Thanks for helping